V1U Article with footage: Thoughts?

Kholi said:
Yeah... okay. So no "voodoo". But the physical imager is 960 x 1080. Someone want to tell me how this is "true" 1080p and not derived from some sort of pixel shifting?
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There's another thread on DVInfo that you may want to read, which takes that notion to task.

Suffice it to say that not even Sony themselves claim it's a "true" 1920x1080. Their own brochure says that it's 960x1080, which goes through a (here I'll use Sony's own words): "Sony Original Interpolation Process" to become 1920x1080. And then all processing is done at 1920x1080, and then the final recording goes through a (again, Sony's words): "Resolution Conversion Process" to become 1440x1080.
 
Kholi said:
I was less than inspired by Douglas's footage. That HAS to be a product of file compression. There's no way that 108mb .m2t can be THE raw file.

I refuse to believe that.
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I belive that DSE has said he'll never post un-watermarked footage again, so IINM that footage isn't raw, it's been recompressed at least once? I may be mistaken though.
 
Kholi said:
Aren't all of those clips 50i streams? Where's the 24p streams?
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The Sony doesn't produce 24p streams, it produces 60i streams. If you want to see raw camera-original untouched footage, it's going to be a 60i data stream with 24p embedded in it using a 2-3 pulldown system.
 
Kholi said:
Yeah you can capture 4:2:2 1920x1080 because it's that resolution at the imager.
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No it isn't, it's 960x1080 at the imager.

In the internal DSP processing, it's 1920x1080 @ 4:2:2; same as the HVX and I believe the Canon does that same process.

What I don't get is how he says there's no "Voodoo" going on.
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I disagree with his choice of words -- if "pixel shift" is "voodoo", then certainly "Sony Original Interpolation Process" must also be voodoo. But what it certainly isn't is a 1920x1080 chip.
 
anthony jackson said:
Is it real 24p
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From all accounts, yes it should be legitimate actual progressive scan at 24hz, so "real" 24p.

The only camera that does "fake 24p" that's actually bad is the Sony FX1/Z1. Any other "real" or "fake" 24p all looks good. Of course, I say that without actually having seen the Sony's 24p, but from the specs it sounds like they're doing it properly this time.
 
Barry_Green said:
Their own brochure says that it's 960x1080, which goes through a (here I'll use Sony's own words): "Sony Original Interpolation Process" to become 1920x1080. And then all processing is done at 1920x1080, and then the final recording goes through a (again, Sony's words): "Resolution Conversion Process" to become 1440x1080.
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LOL

Barry's humor. :thumbup:
 
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