Mixed emotions about Horrorfest

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Charli said:
Geez, Theo I have no idea what you just said.
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I guess this is why I didn't win the screenwriter's catagory!!!

Perhaps I put too much in that post. I just heard mention of "people changing their scores to get the desired outcome." I wanted to admit that I was one that said that I would but I ended up not doing so.

That's all. :)

Plus some other junk about we're all winners, blah, blah, blah!
 
Well, a think a good deal of this thread has been taken out of context to make people (mainly me) seem ingrateful and spiteful of the fest. Don't let this be a reason to not submit the spreadsheet to the public. I wasn't trying to ***** and moan when I posted what I posted, and this certainly wasn't a thread about "why didn't I win" or "I deserved this." I was just trying to be honest with my initial post about some issues.
 
I have my opinions, and I am fairly certain that others have their opinions too, but unless any of us is willing to step up and run our own contest (I know for certain that I am not even remotely interested in that) we really can't complain on how this one was run. We are able to offer our suggestions and observations via this and other threads; remember, we can choose to participate or not based upon our own experiences in this and previous contests.

Thanks again for everyone involved in putting this thing together, I am certain that it was one hell of a lot of work!
 
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I think MOST people here are not complaining about the the spreadsheet final scores... just the actual spreadsheet itself.

And complaining is the wrong word.


John G.
 
I was going to say the same thing there, Rubix. I don't think you came off that way. I am just disappointed that you may be right. Perhaps some people did look at the films at the bottom of their list and give the same low number across the board (just to simplify their life).

That would be too bad if they did and a dis-service to you. Those numbers SHOULD have some significance to you... how else are you going to decipher the information?
 
I was also going to say that we probably wouldn't all be yapping so much about the damned spreadsheet/voting/judging if it were strictly a festival with a title award. Because of the generous prizes, they in essence made HorrorFest a CONTEST more than a festival.


John G.
 
I just got back from lunch and saw this thread had grown considerably. I just finished reading through the pages and I have to say I am dumbfounded.

How ingrateful can you be. This is a FREE contest that offers FANTASTIC PRIZES. And, if that wasn't enough, you get the benefit of hearing what people of VARYING skill levels ACTUALLY THINKS about the work you created.

Unlike many contests/festivals, where you pay a fee and submit your film, then wait to see if it will be accepted. Then if it is accepted you wait while it is judged. If it wins you are told, "You win" and you get your prize. If you lose, you might be told, "You didn't win, sorry". And, that's the end of it. No feedback, no input as to what works, what didn't work.

If this fest continued but did away with the voting, spreadsheet, and prizes and all we got out of it was people commenting in our INDIVIDUAL THREADS about what they liked/dis-liked, that would be more than enough for me.

When I entered a film in the HeroFest, the best thing I received out of the whole experience was the EXPERIENCE of producing an actual film and seeing it through to the end. I learned how to deal with a myriad of problems and situations as they arose, trying to prevent me from completing the film. The second best thing I received was the FEEDBACK in the individual thread. What a blessing to hear what people thought and then get a chance to say, that makes sense, or to explain what I was thinking or what problems I was trying to overcome and then get feedback on how I might resolve that in future projects.

I think this thread should be closed and I am ashamed that it ever was created in the first place. Sure if you have an issue with how a particular thing is run, you should be able to say so. But this is a matter that should be taken up with Jarred and/or Barry S (the one's who run and administer the fest), not something run up the flagpole for everyone and their brother to bash and complain.

Thanks for listening.

Peace,
Larry
 
I do wanna stick up for Rubix briefly, Larry.

I don't feel like he was bitching ... just having some thoughts and conflicted feelings about how the category scores related to the overall scores, which is fine.

Just doesn't seem like the forum was mature enough to handle the discussion and it went other places.
 
*sigh*

Then just close it. I certainly don't want to be the guy who instigated the spreadsheet not getting released in the future.

I think anyone with a clear head can see that I wasn't trying to ... bah, the hell with it. I've said it a dozen times already.
 
Larry R said:
I just got back from lunch and saw this thread had grown considerably. I just finished reading through the pages and I have to say I am dumbfounded.

How ingrateful can you be. This is a FREE contest that offers FANTASTIC PRIZES. And, if that wasn't enough, you get the benefit of hearing what people of VARYING skill levels ACTUALLY THINKS about the work you created.

Unlike many contests/festivals, where you pay a fee and submit your film, then wait to see if it will be accepted. Then if it is accepted you wait while it is judged. If it wins you are told, "You win" and you get your prize. If you lose, you might be told, "You didn't win, sorry". And, that's the end of it. No feedback, no input as to what works, what didn't work.

If this fest continued but did away with the voting, spreadsheet, and prizes and all we got out of it was people commenting in our INDIVIDUAL THREADS about what they liked/dis-liked, that would be more than enough for me.

When I entered a film in the HeroFest, the best thing I received out of the whole experience was the EXPERIENCE of producing an actual film and seeing it through to the end. I learned how to deal with a myriad of problems and situations as they arose, trying to prevent me from completing the film. The second best thing I received was the FEEDBACK in the individual thread. What a blessing to hear what people thought and then get a chance to say, that makes sense, or to explain what I was thinking or what problems I was trying to overcome and then get feedback on how I might resolve that in future projects.

I think this thread should be closed and I am ashamed that it ever was created in the first place. Sure if you have an issue with how a particular thing is run, you should be able to say so. But this is a matter that should be taken up with Jarred and/or Barry S (the one's who run and administer the fest), not something run up the flagpole for everyone and their brother to bash and complain.

Thanks for listening.

Peace,
Larry
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Larry,

I don't think people here are really being ungrateful. I think we all realize what it takes to put together something like HorrorFest and that the prizes that were negotiated with outside vendors were pretty awesome.

But since were are all part of a community here, there are times we may not agree with each other or those who are running it. And to say that we should basically keep our feelings to ourselves when it comes to community subjects, well, that seems like your putting a little bit of a thin skin on the face of it.

I think the discourse in this thread is good. There was a contest held and there are those that feel the contest could be changed up a bit. Since this contest TOTALLY based on peer voting, why can't the peers talk about the acutal process of voting? I KNOW Jarred et. al. listen. And that's good enough for me. If a decision is made to change up things, that's great. If not, that doesn't mean the world is coming to an end.

Anyway, I'm not dissing you, Larry. I'm sure you are as frustrated with all this stuff as anybody else.

Peace brother,


John G.
 
Perhaps I was a bit harsh, but reading the subsequent pages really rubbed me the wrong way. Sure, I'm fine with voicing your opinion if you have questions or disagree with something. But it seemed like the following posts spiraled downward.

I don't take back what I said, but I agree that it was fair for Rubix, and others, to voice his opinion/concern/disagreement. What I disagree with is people acting like they are being cheated or robbed because of how the fest is run. It was set up that way and has been discussed to death in the past. This is how it is, and how it likely will stay. If you want a jury vote, enter a contest with a jury vote.

Just my two-cents. Don't want to upset/offend anyone, just voicing my opinion too.

Peace,
Larry
 
Larry R said:
I don't take back what I said, but I agree that it was fair for Rubix, and others, to voice his opinion/concern/disagreement.
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So you still are ashamed that the thread was created, and don't take it back, but it's fair for me to voice an opinion, but you don't want to offend or be harsh...

Are you having a bad day? :)
 
Apparently I'm not doing a very good job of explaining myself today, please disregard my comments...I'm bowing out of this conversation.


Rubix³ said:
Are you having a bad day? :)
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Actually, I am...and not just one. So, it probably wasn't right for me to interject my feelings. Sorry if I offended anyone, that was not my intent.

Peace,
Larry
 
I feel robbed (not for myself, but for others) at the fact i thought this would be different than i thought it would, and would actually be upset if i didnt find the way people think comical.
 
Larry R said:
Apparently I'm not doing a very good job of explaining myself today, please disregard my comments...I'm bowing out of this conversation.




Actually, I am...and not just one. So, it probably wasn't right for me to interject my feelings. Sorry if I offended anyone, that was not my intent.

Peace,
Larry
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Don't sweat it man. I had a feeling there was something, no worries.

Hope your days get better. It sucks when they pile up.

Stick around. Now we're trying to break up the ice.
Guess the quote:

"Ahhhhhh Aren't I lucky - I got a chunky bit." (anyone?)
 
I didn't enter this fest. I watched every movie and would have liked to have voted but it seemed like to much of a task. I would have definitely voted on just a best movie category if there was one.

I think this fest was awesome. I hate now that I missed it. I think as long as everyone shows appreciation for this outlet it should be ok to voice any opinions. We are all here to become better and that is done with helping each other. And if the score card can become better why not talk about it. Let's just be careful and not sound like we don't appreciate it.

I am entering the next fest and can't wait. There better be one!
 
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