wax vibrating medium format adaptor

Hi Alex,

on the 35mm adapter i use the 12mm motor. But for the medium format adapter i think its to small (-not tested yet-). Waiting for the ordered plastic material.
 
Hi Daniel,

Ok, if the 12mm motor works on the medium format, then the GG holder design is the way to go. Cos the letus method requires a 14mm sanko motor. No other motors will do. Are you also using the same GG holder concept in your 35mm as with the design you put up in this thread? If so, how is the grain issue? Is the grain travelling in a circular motion? Cos, my 14mm motor i tested, the GG still show up a little in my mini35. I am thinking of using Toenis design for my personal mini35 adaptor just as you have done. Can you post some shot of your 35mm adaptor footage showing how the grains before and after the motor is turned on? Thanks.
 
This site seems to sell the 14mm motors http://www.totalrobots.com/acatalog/...Motors_30.html
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Forget the site. I was sent the 12mm motors instead of the 14mm as shown on their website. And they didn't even bother to ask me if the change was ok. There isn't anymore 14mm motor out there that is of the type 1E120. I am sure some unknown toy shop or electronic shop somewhere at a corner of a street has it but unless they have a online store, i dont think anyone here can find it. If anyone can please do let us know.
 
Daniel Schaumberger said:
Its a flat vibrating disc motor.
I saw some identical disc motor in an Alcatel One Touch 300, 301 or 302.

If someone knows other source where to get this disc motor please send me a email. In germany i cant find this vibrating disc motors.

This one here was the first used motor in 35mm adapters from hobbyengineering (diameter 14mm / 3,3mm thick) but now its sold out:
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I didn't got this right.. Is it you say that Alchatel One Touch 30x motor is equvivalent to Sanko 14mm diameter, or to that with 12mm diameter ???

Cheers,

david:beer:
 
If you are going to use any 14mm motors, you have to get the 1E120 Sanko motor as shown in the picture posted by Daniel and no other cos all the rest has been tested and they just don't work as well as the sanko motor. Now, the motor has been discontinued by the manufacturer. So if you can find some, then some store must still have some stock left over. If you do get them, great cos they are the one to look for. Not sure whats in the Alcatel phone, if it doesb't say 1E120 on the top, then probably won't work as well.

But as Toenis said, maybe 12mm will work just as well as the 14mm Sanko motor if and only IF used with the GG holder he has designed and built or the one Daniel has built.

Daniel, any latest news on my question to you in this thread? Thanks.
 
Yes, my design can utilize 12mm coin type vibration motors as well as 10mm ones. In fact 12mm motors are too powerful even at minimal rated voltage of 2.4V so one can use those even at 1.2V and therefore doubling the service life. Adible noise reduces threfore too and that`s why we are using those in our CINEDOF products too.
Threre are even 8mm coin type or so called pancake vibration motors available but those aren`t available to general public in small volumes.

Cheers,
T
 
Daniel!!!! That is absolutely beautiful!! The GG looks fantastic, and nice tutorial!!

How is the footage from this?

Oh, and where would the waxes be found at? Do I have to order online or at certain stores?
 
HI Toenis,

Is there any possibility of fatigue failure of the leave springs after prolong use? Probably good to test one unit by running it non stop for a month and see if the GG holder is still in good shape.
 
Genius! Seriously

Genius! Seriously

I would never have thought of using the capilary action to make the screen like that. How in the world did you ever come up with that? I've been making my wax screens in almost exactly the same way (double glass sanwhich, tape spacer, etc...) But I always would heat everything up and then pour the wax over one layer of glass and then try to sanwhich it. Everything had to be absolutely perfect to get it right and thhen if you have just one little air bubble it's all over. My latest adapter used a spinning glass but I'm really excited about going back and making a few wax screens now.
 
Alex,

The fatigue of leaf springs really depends on material used. If you use a material with Derlin-like properties you can ensure the longest possible lifecycle for this kind of vibrator. We have tested our vibration units in 24h runs (per one AA 2500mAh cell) under different temperatures for about 720 hours without problems.

T
 
Schaumberger, are you building the adapter just for your self or are you planning to sell it too? I certainly hope so. The best footage I've seen from any 35mm adapter came from a wax solution (G35). I'm simply dying to see some footage. Do you know how much light it loses?
 
Hi rawfa,

i tweaked my gg-holder to work with the cheap vibramotors i have here in germany.
For the 35mm adapter im thinking to sell a kit that contains only a gg-holder, and motor for EUR 39,- without infringing the patent of p+s. The tutorial for building the kit incl. wax-gg and diy macro with links to the "Jin She Jie Quan - tube" sources here in germany will be free of course. If someone cannot build the gg it will be sold separately. For the 70mm adapter i have not yet found a tube or case.

I have to post some grabs and footage first. I borrowed my cam to a friend for filming a wedding. When i get it back the first thing will be to capture some wax-gg material.

Daniel
 
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