I Know What You Produced In The Last HorrorFest (or how to make enemies pt1)

Inexistence said:
I'd like to know this as well.


oh and D_and_G, is that for Dolce & Gabanna or something else?

just playin'


don't hurt me
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haha. I'm a teddy bear.

It's the first intitial of myself and my co-producing partner (she posts too)

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HybridCreations said:
First off, the tone of your reply comes off as a bit defensive and bitter. I merely offered up my opinion and if you disagree that's fine, but this is a DISCUSSION board not a medium to show how "right" you are.

With that said, I was not aware that you entered an NC entry. I'm sorry that you have not gotten as much feedback as you like but I'm sure you got more than you would have by posting outside the umbrella of this festival. That's all I meant by my "Why not enter a shortened film?" comments. In fact, I applaud you for submitting an entry that wasn't eligible for a prize.

I tend to look at shorts as practice. I don't think anyone's short here is going to Sundance (although some probably could). I also don't think anyone's Horrorfest entry is going to be the defining film of their career, so why be so chained to the purity of the piece as a whole. If it loses a little something because it has to be cut down so be it. If more people watch the shortened version and like it, perhaps they will watch the longer version down the line. It's up to the filmmaker then to finish it as a full piece and offer it up. There are a number of things viewers could comment on in a cut-down piece. Cinematography, lighting, sound, pacing, blocking, and editing are all things that can be showcased with or without the entire story. Deadlines are a part of the real world and dealing with them is a skill in and of itself. Of course, some are going to better than others at disguising the fact that it was originally a longer piece, but that's only one aspect of the process. Comment on that in your review and move on to giving the rest of your proper, clean, and distinctive review. I would hope that we as filmmakers would want comments on all aspects of the process, not just a Siskel and Ebert thumbs up or down.

I haven't watched all of the entries, but were there so many that weren't "horror" that it's worth getting upset over? Have we been so inundated with incorrectly themed entries that it overshadows the proper horror films? No. Perhaps users here wanted to be involved in the festival and loosely interpreted the genre. That's fine with me.
-Ryan
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First of all, I was defensive but not in a bitter way. You commented on my views and I took the time to make a detailed reply for you, to explore more my thoughts on this.
Second of all, it's not about being upset. My original post in here was not in the form of 'OMG WHAT THE HELL ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING SENDING THOSE FILMS'!!!!!! NO! What I said were GENERAL REMARKS, MY THOUGHTS on HorrorFest, things that bothered me, things I realised, things I liked....So yeah, by seeing that there were movies that shouldnt have been sent and should have been more respected by their creators is something I stand by and I dont find it as a comment something that makes me seem upset.

However I am still discussing and dont try to prove me wrong since my opinion is my own and I defend my opinion but the not the whole rightness of it. In an objective or popular way I may be wrong, I am open to that totally. But personally this is where I stand and I say it.
 
Ryan I want to add something else here. I re-read my post, then read yours again. I think that the point I was trying to make was clear. I respect your view on watching shorts as practice, on wanting people to share their etc etc. I RESPECT THAT and I RESPECT THE CREATORS.

What I dont understand is why would someone be willing to ALTER his work or vision just to enter for a prize when all he wants is the feedback?

And to tell you something else as well.....what I am saying is that its bad to cut down your work coz that will show and people wont make helpful comments. Because if we start commenting and the approach to our comments is (as it has been):
'that was left out in the original'
'that wasnt in the original'
'that should be there but 6 minutes man...'
'had to do it in a rush'
'had to undo it in a rush'....

You see what I'm saying? I want proper feedback for the thing I set out to do. So I do it, and I send it or point people to the direction to find it.
To me its more or less the same with commenting based on grabs. If you cant see the video, cant see the whole picture, than how can you comment based on fragments of a project?

Hope that you see what I m saying and dont take me for a bitter person again :)
 
Thank you for bringing us back to a real discussion. Things always get lost in translation when typing out one's thoughts and I apologize if I took what you said the wrong way.

As we hash this out, it's becoming clear that we're speaking from different perspectives. As I said, when I originally posted, I didn't even know you sent in an NC entry. But I believe others here, knowing how much excitement these fests stir up, perhaps want to jump into the fray with whatever they can....even if it's a shorter cut. Perhaps they understand that many people go through with their ballots and give detailed reviews on those films that are in the running.

You seem to be speaking from a strictly directorial standpoint and I can certainly respect that you want to be critiqued on the whole product the way it was meant to be. But many of us have collaborated on these films and can get quite a bit of good feedback from whatever form is submitted. Even if the film I worked on wins anything, I most likely won't get any prize. That's fine with me because I just want the feedback to get better.

I've just seen people (mostly outside of DVXUser) take producing a short far too seriously to the point where it just frustrated everyone involved...usually to the detriment of the project. My point is that a short is rarely going to get anyone famous or make anyone's career so lighten up. Finish the one you're working on, and make another where you tackle another aspect of filmmaking to improve. Getting it done is something that's much easier said than done, and a film festival deadline may be the only thing that motivates that completion.

So I hope we can put this to bed now (for everyone else's sake). I don't have anything against you and I thank you for engaging me in this discussion. I look forward to watching your films again and giving you some good feedback.
-Ryan
 
Sure Ryan! Thanx for taking part in this. And I understand what you meant about someone collaborating on a project, like if you wrote the music, you d want it to be heard and that wouldnt have to do with a chopped version. Cheers!
 
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