Matt Sconce
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You guys all rock! I expect to see this in the upcoming Action on Film Festival as well! :thumbup: 
Slimothy-Blaine-khmuse -Thou Shalt Not-
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Rock Punk!
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Glad to see that you finally made it. Just as I was to see that I did too.
Blaine
Mr. Hollywood
Title:Thou Shalt Not.
Produced - Written: Blaine Golden
Co-Producer: Tashauna Riley
Directed: Tim Hyten
Starring: -Miko Hughes - David Concannon - Amanda Beede - Julie Horner - Robert Olding - Nathanael Johnson - Debbie Kagy
Director of Photography: Kevin Halverson
1st AD: David Chien
1st AC: Cody Sarloos
Sound: Michael Blue
Music by: Sid Barnhoorn
Visual FX: Justin Snodgrass
Cast:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0400816/ - Miko Hughes
http://snodart.com/cache/index.htm - David Concannon
http://imdb.com/name/nm1438928/Amanda Beede
http://imdb.com/name/nm1883044/Nathanael Johnson
Julie Horner
http://imdb.com/name/nm1500093/Robert Olding
Debbie Kagy
Hope you enjoy the movie
Produced - Written: Blaine Golden
Co-Producer: Tashauna Riley
Directed: Tim Hyten
Starring: -Miko Hughes - David Concannon - Amanda Beede - Julie Horner - Robert Olding - Nathanael Johnson - Debbie Kagy
Director of Photography: Kevin Halverson
1st AD: David Chien
1st AC: Cody Sarloos
Sound: Michael Blue
Music by: Sid Barnhoorn
Visual FX: Justin Snodgrass
Cast:
http://imdb.com/name/nm0400816/ - Miko Hughes
http://snodart.com/cache/index.htm - David Concannon
http://imdb.com/name/nm1438928/Amanda Beede
http://imdb.com/name/nm1883044/Nathanael Johnson
Julie Horner
http://imdb.com/name/nm1500093/Robert Olding
Debbie Kagy
Hope you enjoy the movie
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CallaghanFilms
Veteran
Really solid short film here, fellas.
Technically everything seemed to click.
The location was picture perfect.
The acting was quite respectable...It was the little things (the actors' "buisiness") that stuck with me (IE Concannon's spinning roughly of the chairs.)
What can I say but yuz left me wanting more.
Spoiler:
:evil: Now, Blaine - about that line "collateral damage"...:evil:
Technically everything seemed to click.
The location was picture perfect.
The acting was quite respectable...It was the little things (the actors' "buisiness") that stuck with me (IE Concannon's spinning roughly of the chairs.)
What can I say but yuz left me wanting more.
Spoiler:
:evil: Now, Blaine - about that line "collateral damage"...:evil:
Brandon Rice
Distributed Producer
Brandon Rice’s comprehensive and completely subjective film review
Brandon Rice’s comprehensive and completely subjective film review
Thou Shalt Not
Script
This is where the filmmaking starts, the script. This story was totally confusing to me, and I felt no impact by the end. The setup was ok, but the middle and end just didn’t work at all for me.
Acting
Maybe it was because I was expecting a lot, but the acting didn’t work for me here. I think the best job here was David’s role. The other’s all felt as if they were reading from their scripts. Very wooden. I think some of it might be derived from what in my opinion was unnatural dialogue on the page.
Cinematography
Again, I expected great things. There are a few nice shots, specifically thinking the exteriors of the café, but most everything else falls flat for me. The framing on several shots is totally off, and the lighting in many places seems unmotivated
Editing
Pretty decent. I think some of the acting qualms I had could be solved with tightening up the dialogue, specifically in the exchange after Miko walks in. Sometimes I felt confused as to what was happening, as people were running places or whatever.
Score
I liked the score overall. Very modern horror score. It worked.
Overall Impressions
Thou Shalt Not had amazing potential. I feel it lacks in the writing, cinematography some of the editing choices. Again, after the hype, I was expecting a lot. Please don’t take this review the wrong way. I know I have a lot to learn, and am in no way the end all on films, but I just state my subjective opinion. Thanks for sharing the film!
Brandon Rice’s comprehensive and completely subjective film review
Thou Shalt Not
Script
This is where the filmmaking starts, the script. This story was totally confusing to me, and I felt no impact by the end. The setup was ok, but the middle and end just didn’t work at all for me.
Acting
Maybe it was because I was expecting a lot, but the acting didn’t work for me here. I think the best job here was David’s role. The other’s all felt as if they were reading from their scripts. Very wooden. I think some of it might be derived from what in my opinion was unnatural dialogue on the page.
Cinematography
Again, I expected great things. There are a few nice shots, specifically thinking the exteriors of the café, but most everything else falls flat for me. The framing on several shots is totally off, and the lighting in many places seems unmotivated
Editing
Pretty decent. I think some of the acting qualms I had could be solved with tightening up the dialogue, specifically in the exchange after Miko walks in. Sometimes I felt confused as to what was happening, as people were running places or whatever.
Score
I liked the score overall. Very modern horror score. It worked.
Overall Impressions
Thou Shalt Not had amazing potential. I feel it lacks in the writing, cinematography some of the editing choices. Again, after the hype, I was expecting a lot. Please don’t take this review the wrong way. I know I have a lot to learn, and am in no way the end all on films, but I just state my subjective opinion. Thanks for sharing the film!
Edgen
Veteran
hey guys! Kudos on the film. I think a lot of what i'd like to say has been said already, so I think that horse maybe dead.
i too was a bit confused at the end. I knew they were 'partners in crime' and It was a great little twist. I dug the visuals. I think the 'red' scene with the blonde girl (georgous btw) was a bit too drawn out and over the top. I assume you made that red to parellel the mood? (cause it was the only red scene in the entire film)
Acting was pretty good.. and.. well, not so good. I LOVED the seat tossing at the end from cocannon? That too stuck out to me. Its the small things.
Score! Sid, ahh, excellent work and great to see it with picture! I'm starting to get a good solid feel for your style.
The end. I would have liked to see some extreme close ups. I'm not sure if the long two shot worked. Having you right up in their face will give you a sense of power and uneasiness to the character. I'm wondering if you guys got those angles?
Its probably stupid to say, but they are the western small outskirt village duo similar to the boondock saints right? Taking care of the evil people of the world?
kudos on entering the fest.
/j
i too was a bit confused at the end. I knew they were 'partners in crime' and It was a great little twist. I dug the visuals. I think the 'red' scene with the blonde girl (georgous btw) was a bit too drawn out and over the top. I assume you made that red to parellel the mood? (cause it was the only red scene in the entire film)
Acting was pretty good.. and.. well, not so good. I LOVED the seat tossing at the end from cocannon? That too stuck out to me. Its the small things.
Score! Sid, ahh, excellent work and great to see it with picture! I'm starting to get a good solid feel for your style.
The end. I would have liked to see some extreme close ups. I'm not sure if the long two shot worked. Having you right up in their face will give you a sense of power and uneasiness to the character. I'm wondering if you guys got those angles?
Its probably stupid to say, but they are the western small outskirt village duo similar to the boondock saints right? Taking care of the evil people of the world?
kudos on entering the fest.
/j
Slimothy
Veteran
Hey man,Edgen said:hey guys! Kudos on the film. I think a lot of what i'd like to say has been said already, so I think that horse maybe dead.
i too was a bit confused at the end. I knew they were 'partners in crime' and It was a great little twist. I dug the visuals. I think the 'red' scene with the blonde girl (georgous btw) was a bit too drawn out and over the top. I assume you made that red to parellel the mood? (cause it was the only red scene in the entire film)
Acting was pretty good.. and.. well, not so good. I LOVED the seat tossing at the end from cocannon? That too stuck out to me. Its the small things.
Score! Sid, ahh, excellent work and great to see it with picture! I'm starting to get a good solid feel for your style.
The end. I would have liked to see some extreme close ups. I'm not sure if the long two shot worked. Having you right up in their face will give you a sense of power and uneasiness to the character. I'm wondering if you guys got those angles?
Its probably stupid to say, but they are the western small outskirt village duo similar to the boondock saints right? Taking care of the evil people of the world?
kudos on entering the fest.
/j
Thanks alot for commenting/watching. I would have really liked to get some more CU's and coverage, but unfortunately we ran out of time so we weren't able to get those angles.
Could you tell me which acting you thought was a bit wonky, so next time I can improve on the direction?
As far as the "boondock saints" theme: You're close, but not quite.
CallaghanFilms
Veteran
I saw it more as Dogma meets The Prophecy set against the backdrop of A History of Violence...or some such jazz
Edgen
Veteran
ha!! Maybe.. Jay and Silent bob? Except darker?
You know.. the third time watching... I think its just the echo of the audio within the diner itself. Re-watching the actors again in 'extreme low volume', it looks like they are delivering. Maybe do an ADR session, (which, i know is costly and timeconsuming) but you can definitely hear a slight muffled or refridgerator echo in the background that sticks out really bad throughout the film (which, i'm sure they couldn't just shut those down) or perhaps that's just my virgin ears? (except for the final scene which, i think was adr?) if so, capturing the room tone and throwing that in the backdrop would have evened things out across the boards.
the other thing. I think the Anamorphic adapter is really cutting your information out. It seems like everyone is squeezed into frame and the more movies I'm seeing with the super wide screen, the more I'm not caring too much for it. (second pass o' crit) it happens especially at 2:00
ooh, the third chair thud... what happened to that SFX?
(although it probably did not actually hit, i would have liked to hear the last one to mesh nicely with his swings). I guess sometimes onset audio shouldn't match with post audio fx. Those knife stabs. (another 2nd round crit)... Hollywoodify it. they were just weak. (although i'm sure that's what it actually sounds like in real life)
hope this helps. But.. regardless, I reallly enjoyed watching the film and looking forward to the next!
/j
You know.. the third time watching... I think its just the echo of the audio within the diner itself. Re-watching the actors again in 'extreme low volume', it looks like they are delivering. Maybe do an ADR session, (which, i know is costly and timeconsuming) but you can definitely hear a slight muffled or refridgerator echo in the background that sticks out really bad throughout the film (which, i'm sure they couldn't just shut those down) or perhaps that's just my virgin ears?
(except for the final scene which, i think was adr?) if so, capturing the room tone and throwing that in the backdrop would have evened things out across the boards.the other thing. I think the Anamorphic adapter is really cutting your information out. It seems like everyone is squeezed into frame and the more movies I'm seeing with the super wide screen, the more I'm not caring too much for it. (second pass o' crit) it happens especially at 2:00
ooh, the third chair thud... what happened to that SFX?
(although it probably did not actually hit, i would have liked to hear the last one to mesh nicely with his swings). I guess sometimes onset audio shouldn't match with post audio fx. Those knife stabs. (another 2nd round crit)... Hollywoodify it. they were just weak. (although i'm sure that's what it actually sounds like in real life)
hope this helps. But.. regardless, I reallly enjoyed watching the film and looking forward to the next!
/j
khmuse
Tech Guru
Hey Edgen,
You have identified a scene where I too would have loved some more coverage, namely the end scene. The funny thing is that circumstances conspired to prevent this from occurring, by no less than a simple, but absolutely unstoppable force. Namely, we ran out of fuel for the genny after just two takes at the master shot. So, no coverage and not what I wanted for this scene.
To answer your question, the two characters, "The Kid" and "The Demon" are both in fact immortal beings that go about righting the world as they see it (I suspect that Blaine could do a better job expounding upon this than I can). This story really, I mean REALLY, needed more running time to be told correctly. It was an 8 page script that we pushed through to get to the time limit and even 8 minutes would have been a bit tight. Some more back story, some more dialog could have been really used to improve it.
Regarding the "Red" location, its something that just clicked in my head as a way of helping to make the space that "Shirley" (the waitress) was hiding in a bit more terrifying. I realize that there is no real good reason to have a red illuminated room in the back of a dinner, its just felt right while on set and I went for it. It was more likely the cause for the scene appearing a bit over the top and not the fault of the actress who played it out so I take full responsibility for this one good or bad.
Interesting that people are picking up on Dave's seat banging, it really did make for a fairly terrifying event when being shot. I didn't know that he was going to do it the first take and being a handheld shot, I reacted to it and it shows in the camera handling, which in many ways I think helps to make the event slightly more terrifying.
Thanks so much for your comments and explanations, it really helps me to understand what is and what isn't working for our film.
Kevin
You have identified a scene where I too would have loved some more coverage, namely the end scene. The funny thing is that circumstances conspired to prevent this from occurring, by no less than a simple, but absolutely unstoppable force. Namely, we ran out of fuel for the genny after just two takes at the master shot. So, no coverage and not what I wanted for this scene.
To answer your question, the two characters, "The Kid" and "The Demon" are both in fact immortal beings that go about righting the world as they see it (I suspect that Blaine could do a better job expounding upon this than I can). This story really, I mean REALLY, needed more running time to be told correctly. It was an 8 page script that we pushed through to get to the time limit and even 8 minutes would have been a bit tight. Some more back story, some more dialog could have been really used to improve it.
Regarding the "Red" location, its something that just clicked in my head as a way of helping to make the space that "Shirley" (the waitress) was hiding in a bit more terrifying. I realize that there is no real good reason to have a red illuminated room in the back of a dinner, its just felt right while on set and I went for it. It was more likely the cause for the scene appearing a bit over the top and not the fault of the actress who played it out so I take full responsibility for this one good or bad.
Interesting that people are picking up on Dave's seat banging, it really did make for a fairly terrifying event when being shot. I didn't know that he was going to do it the first take and being a handheld shot, I reacted to it and it shows in the camera handling, which in many ways I think helps to make the event slightly more terrifying.
Thanks so much for your comments and explanations, it really helps me to understand what is and what isn't working for our film.
Kevin
