Viewing, Voting & Reviewing - A Discussion

"But your movie played like a a bunch of images taking up time between orchestra hits."

Jack,

I think you will find that you can turn off either the music or the visuals, the story is not hurt in our film.

Kill the audio in "CPU" and you are just scratching your head as to what the hell you are seeing.

But my point is, if there are prizes involved, there needs to be set judges that are knowledgeable in film making and not a popularity vote.
 
bena said:
But my point is, if there are prizes involved, there needs to be set judges that are knowledgeable in film making and not a popularity vote.
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Oh I see... So you're saying that, me, Jack, Edgen, and the countless other's who are FILMMAKERS on this forum are not knowledgable in film?!!!
 
... and the oven just got turned up to 450. The Kitchen is heating up.

Thanks for the link Jack.

Popularity Vote? Perfect example. "Snakes On A Plane". Imagine if you were an oldie poke in the woods with basic TV and no internet access, but you were a wild and border-line crazy snake wrangler... and just the thought of a movie about snakes brews the venom inside. But... Alas, you doen't have the internet and that's where most of the hype took place.

What people are doing here is just strategic marketing. Those banners/posters that I see plastered all over the boards will get the name recognition and will stick out to me to watch those films first. (or.. at least I'd like to watch them first) Then, when it's time to vote, that's a different story.

/j
 
Brandon,

Please do not put words in my mouth.

As I said, based on how sci fest was not due-fully judged by the viewers, awarding prizes becomes a popularity contest.

How many of the people who voted actually watch all of the movies? I did and it took a very long time, but I highly doubt more than a small percent did.
 
I just watched "Invasion". I think the score was great and goes with the hockey narration and playfulness of the film. So... it fits the picture to me. Perhaps a little over the top, but it made the abduction fun and something I would like to do one day. So the composer was also your actor correct?

I think most of the people in this forum 'know' what is good and what is bad. After all, aren't we all referees (parents/fans) sitting on the sidelines?

If this isn't the right group of judges amongst all the talent and peers in this forum compared to the rest of the world, I don't know who is.

/j
 
bena said:
Brandon,

Please do not put words in my mouth.

As I said, based on how sci fest was not due-fully judged by the viewers, awarding prizes becomes a popularity contest.

How many of the people who voted actually watch all of the movies? I did and it took a very long time, but I highly doubt more than a small percent did.
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I disagree... I watched every movie and voted on every one. Also did the same for Herofest. I think the prizes were awarded correctly. We ALL have our OWN subjective opinions... anyway, I'm done.
 
Brandon,

You are one of a very few to have watched them all... If you like I can send you the score cards, there is no arguing with fact.

Edgen,

Thanks! It was meant to be fun and personally I love to listen to our score on my hi fi with the Sub cranked up, there is so much fidelity and dynamics going on in our music, If this was someone else's score, it would not matter, I would still listen to it cause I like this kind of big theatrical music.
 
Hi Chris,

I like what you did musically for CPU, but were you going for a real orchestra sound in the Opening Theme? It sounded pretty synthy if thats a word.

Ben
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Well. No. Not really. Actually it was just a piano and some simple strings, the score for CPU wasn't written for an 'orchestral' sound, I used mainly strings and a piano.

I thought that technically the score to your film was great, and there was some very nice orchestration in it. However I can understand why it didn't get as high ranked. You are right - I have a feeling too that people may be inclined to up the mark for music score etc. if the film itself is visually very good. However, I also think that music is more than just having nice samples - it's about how it effected the audience on an emotional level. If you have a strong theme or motif that people will remember, you'll get a higher mark generally. Even if your score is full of nice orchestration. Non musical people don't appreciate that.

I think there were a number of films here with some pretty nice music, which was often simple, but memorable. And they liked the film, which brings up the marks some more.

Anyway, there was no prize for best score in sci-fest.

-Chris
 
This contest is and audience vote.
There are plenty of juried contests out there.
Makes no sense to enter this contest and complain that it's not juried.
Might as well enter and complain that you can't shoot on an XL2 ... it's jut not that party.
This party = audience vote and no one is forcing you to come to the party.

Also, the fact that Big Bertha (an HVX) is the the take home honey is irrelevant.

There are fare larger prizes to be had at your local box office in the form of millions of dollars, and who votes to see who gets those big prizes ?

... the AUDIENCE with there $. No learned judges decide who takes home the number one spot at the box office.

FREE MARKET BABY ! :cheesy:

If you are in THIS contest you need to start thinking about ways to beat THIS mousetrap. It is what it is.
You want the HVX? Did you look at the fimls that scored above you and ask what you could learn from them?

Filmmaking, like all forms of drama is a highly communicative art. There is an encoding process by the filmmaker and a decoding process by the audience. You need to have that exchange in mind every step of the way. If you are gonna sit around and say "the audience is wrong" vs. "how can I reach this audience" well you are gonna have a tougher (not impossible but way tougher) journery ahead as a filmmaker.

ONE THING ON THE BRIGHT SIDE .... congratulations ... you definitaly have gotten some publicity for your film this go around. I will definately be checking it out sooner rather than later once the films go up. :thumbsup:
 
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