Hi How to record sound for video ?

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I know that probably sounds like a very basic question or even worse but i really need to know this.

Im shooting a video where we are shooting some footage on streets and some indoors with a green screen.

Now what i need to know is that i need neat matty sounding voice for the final. I mean how do we record voice ? Ive read that mostly the on cam mics give very mediocre results. So how do i record the performer talking.

1. On roads etc
2. In doors (green screening) while maintaing sound matching with the outdoor shots.
3. Some shots look good with natural ambience noises so direct recording is ok. But what about when sometimes we need only the voice to be clear and audible with no ambience noises (or prob postproduced ambient noise) is a Voice Over the only option here.
4. How do i avoid the bathroom effect (slight echoing) which occurs when we crecord audio live inside the greenscreen room.

If a voice over is the best option for all of this. How should i go about it exactly ? Record with the basic cam mic for sync purposes and then have a voice over sync done in Postproduction ? I am using Vegas 6.0. What extra tools will i need. Thanks so much for any advice in advance.
 
The first extra tool you need is an easy one - reading. There are three stickies at the top of this forum that will get you moving in the right direction.

The second tool also involves reading. It is a book by Jay Rose called "Producing Great Sound for Digital Video". You can go to http://www.dplay.com to order it.

Phil
 
You sound like you are going to need to ADR any dialog you are trying to get.

1. Near traffic is always a disaster, unless you don't mind the bottom half of your dynamic range being filled with noise and near impossible cuts.
2. Indoors has reverb, outdoors not. Reverb is impossible to remove, hence, unless you are in an expensive treated studio your audio will sound like it was recorded indoors.
3. Getting rid of ambience is 99% achieved through physically eliminating it. Refridgerator hum, kill it; genny hum, kill it; dog barking, ki...ummm feed it some peanut butter or drive it out to a country farm. Basically either stop it from making noise or get it away from you.

The polar patterns of mics will reduce the ambience SLIGHTLY, but it does not make it go away.
4. edit: See #2

Get the book Phil reccomended, plan on ADR for this project, and/or hire a professional and listen to his suggestions on how to make things work or not.

Good luck
 
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How do they then record even hollywood movies with a boom mic right there ?

Do they rerecord voice at the studio ?
 
Also i think the main point was how do i implement sound at all. Youve not given me options. Should i buy a cordless lapel mic and attach it under my shirt so that even if outdoors i will be heard. Or will audio on that be bad ?

If i want to rerecord in the studio. Can i do it within an application like Vegas 6.0 ?
 
If you don't know how to implement sound at all, please see my earlier post. The basics are covered in the stickies, and Jay's book will provide you with excellent guidance.

Your question about the lapel mic/lavaliere is so out of context that it might as well be:

Should I buy a light kit because we might shoot on a cloudy day?

Here are some of the keywords you can search:

ADR
microphone
lavaliere
wireless
ambient sound
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The answers to your questions are here, in the archives.

Phil
 
With out trying to be rude...

"Also i think the main point was how do i implement sound at all. Youve not given me options."

Hire a professional who knows what he(she) is doing. You obviously do not and don't seem to want to listen to the good advice so far given. Plus it's a long road and you probably don't have the time.

" Should i buy a cordless lapel mic and attach it under my shirt so that even if outdoors i will be heard. "

NO

"Or will audio on that be bad ?"

YES, but not primarily because of the mic but because the lack of knowledge of the person using it.

"If i want to rerecord in the studio. Can i do it within an application like Vegas 6.0"

NO. Vegas could I suppose record sound but It would not be a good choice and not in the hands of someone who does not know what they are doing.

These threads on sound depress me. In what endeavor exactly is it possible to be as good as a pro simply by buying a piece of equipment. If I bought some scrubs would you n\let me operate on you? Too extreme you say OK if I show up with a wrench are you going to pay me to work on your sewer? Idiots buy fast cars every day so they can "drive fast" and end up wrapping themselves around phone poles because it takes SKILL to drive fast and stay on the road.
It takes skill to do a decent job on sound. You can't buy it from any manufacturer. You CAN learn the skill, but it takes time and admitting that you don't know enough and you have to learn a LOT more. A better box does no good to someone who doesn't have the skill to get the benefits.

I shall climb down from my apple box, luckily it's only a 1/2 apple - the knees you know.

Cheers
 
GOsh!

I just typed up about a whole page worth of relevant info for each individual scenario and my page suddenly refreshes! :crybaby: Man!
 
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