Grungy look

I think doing it in post is best...I shot one of my films on a DVX 2000, then added grain and a film look through VASST...I edited on Vegas which is the easiest program in theworld and you can download it for free for a trial...some outlets are selling the version that is about to be updated for only $99 or you can buy Vegas Movie Studio for around that price,,,The Film look I used was a preset called PUSHED 16 which blows it out a bit too but I was shooting an edgy guerrilla Gangster type theme so it looked perfect...if any of this is of any value let me know and I would be happy to elaborate...

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shoot with the chroma level at -7, gain at +9, norm color matrix, cinegamma d.

over expose half stop. try it it looks nice.
 
^^^Why over expose half stop and gain +9? Just curious. When simulating film, i never really considered altering the exposure settings in the camera and instead leave this for post. I figured the simulation of film was more to do with contrast and color saturation.

I'll try your setting suggestions and see if it does make a difference.

Also, what about the difference between shooting 24P and 24P(a)? Do you think that it matters in trying to simulate 8 mm film?
 
its to add noise, and the slight over exposure is just ot give it that "automatic Super8 camera from the 70's" look. they never really expose right, unless its a full manual one and you can meter it yourself. it depend s on what youre going for.

the gain is to add some noise to the image. but yea its better otdo all this in post. but i feel it looks more natural is you do it in camera.
 
I don't think doing this in post will get you satisfying results too easily.

IMO the best advice given was the one involving the crappy 35mm adapter. Take a look at this stuff shot with Sony Handycams and a crappy, 20€ adapter.

This one with just the cam:
http://hasu.kapsi.fi/Mikko/DV/DV.jpg

And this one with a crappy CD-spinner:
http://hasu.kapsi.fi/Mikko/DV/35.jpg

After some good CC it would looke really nice. Remember to turn the detail level in your cam down to -7 (important!)
 
My passes done on one of my shots.
Shot clean on f5 default dvx, dirtied up in post. I tried not to go too extreme with the grit - didnt want my shot to look like it was shot with a lousy handicam

Original:


CC'd:


Looking at the two i suppose i should have added more contrast to the cc'd one
 
dasonras, could you post some caps using that method, it sounds like it should yield good results... I agree Magic Bullet is a little too much like the layers in Photoshop most people throw it on without thinking, you can always tell in a student festival or some such when its just had magic bullet thrown on top without pre-consideration, I actually uninstalled my copy... for now

MalcomOng I really like the look you posted for your example, but I still wouldn't consider it to be that close to 8mm.. Another thing we miss out with the perfection in digital is the size of grains or fading stock..

Thread author what did you end up using?
 
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