hi,guys,i have a question,pls help me,thx

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lxwater

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i want to buy a Panasonic HVX200,but i know video formats is *.mxf.
i use adobe premiere pro 2.0,and i know only ciineform aspect hd plugin
can use in premiere.
and i download some *.mxf sample movies,but it is quite
intersting.Some samples i rename them as *.avi,then i can import them into adobe aftereffects 7.0,(here is the file's link URL
http://www.mog-solutions.com/mxf/repository/streams/MOG_MXFsamples/mog_op1a_prompeg_mpeg.mxf)

but some samples i do the same things,but i can't import them into aftereffects,(ie, the sample file ,which name flare.mxf which i download from http://www.dvfilm.com/raylight/index.htm
here is the file's link
http://www.dvfilm.com/raylight/FlareUnzip.exe)


so l search online,i found that there
are 2 kinds of *.mxf ,i wonder maybe this is the reson?

so who can tell me which is the right *.mxf shot from Panasonic HVX200,and where can i download the sample shot from Panasonic HVX200,and if i buy
Panasonic HVX200,is it the only way to buy cineform aspects HD?
what version should i buy?and how about you use which version?

thxxxxx,sorry for my english,i think i have express myself more clearly, hope you can understand me.

by the way i install the MXF Express and MXF Desktop

thx again.
waiting for your reply.

my email:lxwater88@126.com
 
If you try searching in the screengrabs section under the HVX you should be able to find some *.mxf fils/clips. About the other info i'm not sure and someone a little more qualified can probably chime in
 
And what are these differents?I think these *.mxf files like avi files ,have lots of codecs
and ie.DV-DIF ,MPEG-2 are their codecs.Am i right?
but the files shot by Panasonic HVX200 use what kind codecs?

wondering


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I believe they are true files straight from the camera but I'm not sure because it's been a while. You would probably find that info directly in the thread of the clips
 
lxwater said:
And what are these differents?I think these *.mxf files like avi files ,have lots of codecs
and ie.DV-DIF ,MPEG-2 are their codecs.Am i right?
but the files shot by Panasonic HVX200 use what kind codecs?

You can pick from DV, DVCPRO, DVCPRO 50 and DVCPRO HD.
Click to expand...
 
I think some background will help. The recording format of the HVX200 isn't just a single file like an AVI or an MOV file. It is a directory structure consisting of many folders and files. The file structure has separate audio and video directories and contains metadata, which is information for managing a library of clips. The HVX200 records to the P2 card in this format, one directory structure per card. The video is recorded into files with the *.mxf file type.

Most of us are not directly editing or working in MXF files, but are converting them through a process called "ingestion" which is analogous to "capture" from DV tape. The idea is that the original MXF files are converted to *.mov files (on the Mac) or to *.avi files (on the PC) and then edited in a standard NLE program like Final Cut, or Premiere, or Vegas.

On the Mac, Final Cut comes with a DVCPRO suite of codecs that enable it to work with high definition high-color footage inside *.mov files. So on the Mac you ingest the footage directly from a P2 card and it is copied to an *.mov file and then you use the built-in codecs.

On the PC, most editing programs do not come with a high definition high-color codec. Some support HDV, which has about half the color of the footage contained in the MXF files. So another codec is required. The DVFilm Raylight codec is a program that provides a bridge between MXF files and AVI files. It is sort of an interface into the MXF file that enables Premiere and other programs to access and work with the high definition footage.


The demonstration animation you are looking at http://www.dvfilm.com/raylight/FlareUnzip.exe has this text right under it:

"This is a 1.6 sec computer animation rendered with the Raylight DVCPRO-HD Compressor. After you download it, convert it to AVI with RayMaker."

So it is a rendered file and did not originate in an HVX200 camera.


The MOG Solutions appears to be a set of interfaces into the MXF format used to build management applications for working with large repositories of MXF footage. It looks like their SDK (software development kit) is a full interface into the MXF standard and can be used to build complex workflow solutions.

Panasonic provides a program called "P2 Viewer" that runs only on the PC, and it enables you to preview and to edit metadata contained in the HVX200 source footage. This is handy if you want to archive the original MXF files that were shot on the HVX200 rather than archiving the AVI or MOV files after ingestion/capture.


Hope that helps.
 
thank you andy,you teach me a lot.
but still wonder,because i haven't get a orignal clip shot by camera.
where can i download a original clip shot by HVX200 ,anybody know?

:)
 
Not sure where to find one. The reason is that most people shoot until their card is full, which is a minimum of 4GB. That's a lot of data to host online or download. So almost everything in the grabs and clips section is compressed and edited.

What kind of sample are you looking for? The NTSC version of the HVX200 records in many different formats.

a) 480i (SD): 480i/60i, 480i/30p, 480i/24p, 480i/24pA
Codec: DV, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50
Format: 4:3, 16x9 squeeze, 16x9 letterbox
b) 720p (HD): 720p/60p, 720p/30p, 720p/24p, 720p/24pN
c) 1080i (HD): 1080i/60i, 1080i/30p, 1080i/24p, 1080i/24pA

Why do you need a sample MXF file? Maybe there is another way to answer your question.
 
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thx,andy,
i want to 720p (HD): 720p/24p, 16:9
i just care about codce of the original clip.

beacuse i want to buy Panasonic HVX200,
and i use PC ,adobe preimere,
i want to do a test,how to convert *.mxf to avi,so i can edit in premiere.
and i wonder is it the only way to buy cineform aspects HD?

thx...
 
I'm using DVFilm Raylight with Premiere 2.0 and I think Raylight is just great. You copy the whole directory structure and all the files from your P2 card to a disk. Then you copy the little raylight converter program into the .../VIDEO directory and run it. It creates AVI files that you use in your Premiere project. Raylight has three settings that can change the preview quality while you are working. So if you are just editing and want the sound and motion, you can drop the preview quality. And then if you are doing effects or color correction you can put the quality up and sacrifice real-time speed.

You have to leave the mxf files on your disk in exactly the same place. So I guess that Raylight is sort of a gateway into the mxf files. I've used it with 720p, no problem.

Raylight will also remove the pulldown from 1080i/24pA footage and it will give you 1920x1080 resolution out of the 1080i image.
 
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