Director's whose Schtick you're tired of

Ill take Gladiator over any of those.

Other films I would have considered other than Erin or Traffic would be:

Shadow of the Vampire
Thirteen Days
Tigerland
 
Agreed. Traffic- was it "that"good? I think it was average, like John. The "irresponsible schoolgirl with too much cash that happens to be the prosecutors daughter" storyline was just plain terrible and moralistic. A Complete contrast to the others.

As for ripping of Dogma: just look at the camera work and style of either Traffic and Brokovich. Dogma turned handheld "realistic"into a "fashion. Soderberg merely followed this fashion. (Sex & Videotape was a different story- different style altogheter- I liked that one)

Erin Brokovitch is another average movie. A movie starts has a fight for Women's rights, than changes to a tipical TV "L.A Law" episode. Pretty average. great Julia performance.

As for Ocean's Eleven, its very, very average. I won't say mediocre because it isn't, but its just an average movie with the tipical "Scooby Doo"twists in it. Ocean Twelve was an insult to the viewer, with that Julia doing Julia moment. That's the director and the cast laughing at our expense. I sincerely liked Last Action Hero's take on this a lot better- and that's saying something.

And I would definetly vote for Gladiator in that year, too. Unpretentious, well done filmmaking. (The ending could be better, specially on the "girl" speech part, but, as they say in the DVD, the actor supposed to do te Speech scene died before filming, so it was a workaround.)


EDIT- I actually liked some of Kevin Kostners films... I liked Dances With Wolves, Waterworld (yeah, yeah...) and The Postman. The last two (Waterworld and Postman) feel so much like japanese Anime storyteling, and they do have a certain "heart"in them. They feel like "Fist of The North Star" in a certain way, but with a likeable hero in both cases. (I know I'm going to be trashed by saying this :) )
 
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Steve Martin should be added to the list of bad directors after Bowfinger.
 
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ece said:
Steve Martin should be added to the list of bad directors after Bowfinger. remember that one?

I did like the part when they trew the actor that was from the "union" out of the door... :)
 
Isaac_Brody said:
Guy Ritchie is definitely on this list. And the sad part is I think he knows it too.


That's what I was going to say. Guy Ritchie needs to wake up and make another popcorn stereotypical London movie. By the way we Londoners don't actually talk like dat, sorry that.

Also, another director I am sick of, Sofia Coppola.
 
Sofia Coppola's only made three features. The Virgin Suicides, is very different than Lost in Translation, which is pretty far removed from Marie Antionette. I think she's young as a director, and very talented. I don't think she has a "schtick" yet.
 
Pretty sure after about 10 or 12 posts nobody remembers the original topic anymore and begins ranting about whoever they don't like.

Coppola's talented. And doesn't have a schtick yet unless her schtick is isolating the viewer from the characters, which she does better than just about anybody.
 
Steve Martin should be added to the list of bad directors after Bowfinger.

I thought it was funny.

Certainly better than stuff like the Cheaper by the dozen movies.

Or the raping of Peter Seller's corpse that was the Pink Panther remake.
 
John_Hudson said:
Ill take Gladiator over any of those.

I wouldn't have even nominated Gladiator in a year that brought us ...

Requiem for a Dream
Chocolat
Almost Famous
O Brother, Where Art Thou?

Along with the other nominees.

Gladiator is a formulaic sword and sandals epic that I couldn't sit through again after an initial viewing.
 
I wouldn't have even nominated Gladiator in a year that brought us ...

Requiem for a Dream
Chocolat
Almost Famous
O Brother, Where Art Thou?

Along with the other nominees.

Gladiator is a formulaic sword and sandals epic that I couldn't sit through again after an initial viewing.

Believe it or not; I have never seen Requiem

Chocolat - Oh no. If there is ever a talent that screwed their way to the top it must be Juliette Binoche

Almost Famous - Great film; but not my cup of Oscar

O Brother - Another great film; but too 'ha ha and cute' for me

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Formulaic ? I found it a nice homage to Spartucus

Formulaic ? The protaganist DIES

Gladiator reninvented the genre. Before Gladiator, Hollywood just did not do the Epic film anymore. I give Gladiator a bit of credit for bringing back the period epic.

Crowe is superbly cast
Phoenix proves he is far superior to his borther in talent
Oliver Reed, Richard Harris .....

The sets, the fx, the score....

Great film, and my choice for BEST PICTURE that year.
 
Chocolat - Oh no. If there is ever a talent that screwed their way to the top it must be Juliette Binoche


Hahaha so true.

And in terms of Oscar winner that year i too think it should have gone to Requiem.

It's probably the greatest movie that you will never want to watch again.
 
John_Hudson said:
Gladiator reninvented the genre. Before Gladiator, Hollywood just did not do the Epic film anymore. I give Gladiator a bit of credit for bringing back the period epic.

Crowe is superbly cast
Phoenix proves he is far superior to his borther in talent
Oliver Reed, Richard Harris .....

The sets, the fx, the score....

Great film, and my choice for BEST PICTURE that year.
I'd have to go with Gladiator, also. For me, Shadow of the Vampire is also up there.
 
Gladiator, of course, isn't the most egregious Best Picture winner of the last 10 years. Not by a long shot. I don't have a problem with it winning Best Picture, because, as you mentioned, so many things worked well together. But for Best Director, I think there's a reason why it didn't win that honor despite winning Best Picture. Soderbergh for Traffic might not have been the best alternative, but when he's nominated for 2 different films in a single year, there's a pretty darn good chance he's going to win.
 
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