TheKingBanana
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Ok, I am little new to the HVX and I have lived on these message boards for the last month or so since I got my HVX. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INFO. I must now call upon everyone for a little advice/help. I need help finding a real-live-honest-to-goodness- PROFESSIONAL NLE that actually WORKS NATIVLY with DVCPRO HD. As far as I can tell, all of the million and one OVERPRICED NLE's floating around are either retarded or cannot be considered professional in my book.
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Example: Avid Xpress HD allegedly supports DVCPRO HD...I got my hands on a copy of this little gem of a NLE. Not only was the method of getting the clips to show up retarded but there is NO WORKING VIDEO preview with any video card except the Quadro ones from NVIDIA (I EVEN CALLED THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS ONE). OMFG I was 2 minutes away from buying this junkware when a friend of a friend lent me a copy to try it out. Thank God I didn't. My computer setup is as follows: Athlon 64 4400 (DUAL CORE), 2GB Ram, 1 Terabyte of HD space in RAID 0+1, Audigy X-FI elite pro, Radeon 1900XTX (512mb), 2X Widescreen LCD's, etc.
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So, I think you get the idea. Avid is not alone, almost every NLE I looked into either had no support for the format or didn't work correctly with current hardware & drivers. It gives me the impression that all of these NLE's floating around for $500-3000 are NOT what I would call professional. Being a decent DV editor for $2K is insane. I mean, who actually uses DV professionally to publish anything? That is what MOM & DAD film their kid's birthday with and make a cheap DVD with it. Hell, Pinnacle Studio does that great for $100. So why are these lack luster NLE's claiming to be professional when they don't actually support their products with regular updates to allow for newer drivers-formats-etc.:crybaby:
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Aside form my frustration, I need real advice on this one. Buying more hardware is ridiculous and unwarranted. I refuse to consider a MAC as I will never convert my files to quicktime to edit them. Also, Mac hardware is pathetic in performance and costs twice as much. The only real option I have come across is EDIUS 4 "Broadcast". What, including DVCPRO HD was that big of a stretch to just include in the so-called PRO version. SO now I have to imagine this support for the format. I saw how Avid "SUPPORTED" it, and the DEMO Edius offers is not compatible with the "BROADCAST" features. Are you kidding me? You want me to blow another $1500+ for a program that I have to IMAGINE what it would be like to use it in HD? No option to download try/buy, only retail and distributors outlets at full non-refundable MSRP?:furious3:
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What I need to know is what are you all using RIGHT NOW, that REALLY works. I bought this amazing $6000 camera to do SD? Hell no; if the whole P2 card for $600 for 4 minutes of footage debacle isn't bad enough, the lack of software support is MINDBLOWING. Is there not enough people actually using this camera professionally to justify good support? I just finished filming a music video in 1080/60I and I was trying to EDIT the footage. I had hoped the Xpress HD would have done the trick. Nope. So here I am, with 100+ minutes of pristine HD footage just dumped from my Firestore to my PC and I can't do anything with it. :kali:
PS: I need to work with the footage unconverted and pixel perfect to the original MXF. I want to master DVD's and have the original 1080 for blue-ray output down the line. Conversion of the files is not acceptable. Frameservers are not a real option and MACs are also out...thus I have just gone nuts.:badputer:
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Example: Avid Xpress HD allegedly supports DVCPRO HD...I got my hands on a copy of this little gem of a NLE. Not only was the method of getting the clips to show up retarded but there is NO WORKING VIDEO preview with any video card except the Quadro ones from NVIDIA (I EVEN CALLED THEIR SUPPORT ON THIS ONE). OMFG I was 2 minutes away from buying this junkware when a friend of a friend lent me a copy to try it out. Thank God I didn't. My computer setup is as follows: Athlon 64 4400 (DUAL CORE), 2GB Ram, 1 Terabyte of HD space in RAID 0+1, Audigy X-FI elite pro, Radeon 1900XTX (512mb), 2X Widescreen LCD's, etc.
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So, I think you get the idea. Avid is not alone, almost every NLE I looked into either had no support for the format or didn't work correctly with current hardware & drivers. It gives me the impression that all of these NLE's floating around for $500-3000 are NOT what I would call professional. Being a decent DV editor for $2K is insane. I mean, who actually uses DV professionally to publish anything? That is what MOM & DAD film their kid's birthday with and make a cheap DVD with it. Hell, Pinnacle Studio does that great for $100. So why are these lack luster NLE's claiming to be professional when they don't actually support their products with regular updates to allow for newer drivers-formats-etc.:crybaby:
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Aside form my frustration, I need real advice on this one. Buying more hardware is ridiculous and unwarranted. I refuse to consider a MAC as I will never convert my files to quicktime to edit them. Also, Mac hardware is pathetic in performance and costs twice as much. The only real option I have come across is EDIUS 4 "Broadcast". What, including DVCPRO HD was that big of a stretch to just include in the so-called PRO version. SO now I have to imagine this support for the format. I saw how Avid "SUPPORTED" it, and the DEMO Edius offers is not compatible with the "BROADCAST" features. Are you kidding me? You want me to blow another $1500+ for a program that I have to IMAGINE what it would be like to use it in HD? No option to download try/buy, only retail and distributors outlets at full non-refundable MSRP?:furious3:
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What I need to know is what are you all using RIGHT NOW, that REALLY works. I bought this amazing $6000 camera to do SD? Hell no; if the whole P2 card for $600 for 4 minutes of footage debacle isn't bad enough, the lack of software support is MINDBLOWING. Is there not enough people actually using this camera professionally to justify good support? I just finished filming a music video in 1080/60I and I was trying to EDIT the footage. I had hoped the Xpress HD would have done the trick. Nope. So here I am, with 100+ minutes of pristine HD footage just dumped from my Firestore to my PC and I can't do anything with it. :kali:
PS: I need to work with the footage unconverted and pixel perfect to the original MXF. I want to master DVD's and have the original 1080 for blue-ray output down the line. Conversion of the files is not acceptable. Frameservers are not a real option and MACs are also out...thus I have just gone nuts.:badputer:
