HVX on the Motocross Track - 60p Slo-mo

Not a dumb question. It is called ramping. If you edited in FCP you can key frame it. OR do like he said he did one page over ;)
 
Great editing. The footage is good too.

Fast to slow and vice-versa can be done easily in Vegas with video envelopes too (keyframing basically...like the other person said). The author may have used FC2 in which he used his own techniques.

Either way great job.

Take care.
 
Shoot24p said:
My little brother was doing some laps on the MX track today, so I decided to tag along and shoot some 60p. Enjoy.

http://www.theadagio.com/demovideo/quadhead.mov

Cinelike V
Master ped -2
Detail -2
Coring +2
60p-24pN
1/500 shutter
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I just bought an HVX 200 and edit with FCP 5.1. I want to edit pieces of footage I shot in 48 and 60p similar to the way you did in this piece. I need to know how you get the smooth varible speed changes with the 60p footage when editing in FCP.

In the beginning of your quad moto video you see the quad come in fast and then slow to the 60P footage very smooth and without any frame blurring. I'm kind of new to the HVX 200 and FCP so forgive me if I sound confusing.

I know I can use the "speed" feature in FCP but the footage either comes out looking choppy or with frame blurring. Bottom line: I want to get smooth varible speed changes from 60p footage using FCP.

Please help...Jim
 
Sorry, I see I asked the same question twice in this thread but I really want to clearly understand how to do this with my new HVX 200 and FCP. Here is what I got so far...

He said he didn't ramp the footage but just cut the first part and speed it up to 400%. So does FCP remove frames when you speed footage up and duplicates frames when you slow footage down using the "speed" feature?

I was also told in this thread that I could "ramp" the footage by keyframing. How do I go about key framing in FCP? Is this the same as time remapping? (never done time remapping before).

Another question, to keep my footage clean and free of duplicated frames and frame blurring should I shoot 60P and then just speed up the parts that need to be sped up?

Thanks for all your time...Jim
 
swoop.. I do this all the time and what he said on the other page is what I do too. Simply take your slow-mo shot and make a decision where you want the shot to speed up... and this also works the same way going from fast to slow... Then once you have the frame/spot, simply razor or cut the shot into two and then select the half you want to speed up and then change the speed accordingly. Add the motion blur or whatever the button is there. You can do this all with an option/right click or go to the menu to find the speed button. A lot of times, I do it by duration instead of speed tooo.. If I know how long I want the section to be. More precise


Hope that helps
 
Justyn..Thanks for the explanation on that one, the only think I would add to that to help Swoop would be to say that I don't think you are going to get convincing looking regular-motion 24p out of 60p footage. I think you are going to have to make that decision while shooting, what you want to be slo-mo and...regular-mo. But yea, that exactly what I did for the psuedo ramping. It seems like FCP just takes out the appropriate number of frames, it doesn't look as good as real undercranking, but it's so fast that it really doesn't matter.

I can't believe people are still posting on this thread! awesome.
 
Does FCP just remove frames when speeding footage up? So it is better to shoot at higher speed like 60P to get slow mo and just speed up the parts I need?

Will removing frames to make real speed look the same as shooting in 24P. I mean, if I shoot at 60P can I get both the nice smooth slow mo and speed up to get real time 24P?
 
Shoot24p said:
Justyn..Thanks for the explanation on that one, the only think I would add to that to help Swoop would be to say that I don't think you are going to get convincing looking regular-motion 24p out of 60p footage. I think you are going to have to make that decision while shooting, what you want to be slo-mo and...regular-mo. But yea, that exactly what I did for the psuedo ramping. It seems like FCP just takes out the appropriate number of frames, it doesn't look as good as real undercranking, but it's so fast that it really doesn't matter.

I can't believe people are still posting on this thread! awesome.
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Can you please explain why you don't think I could get convincing looking regular-motion out of 60P? Should I use 48P instead or is it not possible at all? Thanks...
 
WOW that looked INSANE. I want an hvx soooo bad. I could afford one, its just i want to wait untill they have 30min P2 cards avail. :/
That as crisp as hell man, nice work.
 
Pro Swooping Tour said:
Another question about this piece...

How did you get the white "flash" between some of the scene changes in FCP?
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It's actually keyframed gamma correction. Over-driven gamma blooms the highlights and blows out the image, so I think it looks a little more organic than dip-to-color. I'll also keyframe a little gausian blur with the gamma to soften the effect.
 
Pro Swooping Tour said:
Can you please explain why you don't think I could get convincing looking regular-motion out of 60P? Should I use 48P instead or is it not possible at all? Thanks...
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I just tried it on some of that footage and I was surprised, it seems to work fairly well. I was worried that the footage wouldn't turn out as nice using the speed adjustment in final cut. Here's the strange thing though, the footage is shot in 60P, which (when played on a 24p timeline) is 2.5 times SLOWER than footage shot in 24p. So i figured you need to speed up the 60p footage by a factor of 2.5 to get it to look like it was shot in 24p. So that would mean 250% right? WRONG.

250% makes the footage waaaay to fast. I tried 200%, and that looked closer to the normal speed. So I don't quite understand the math here, but it seems to work. Maybe someone like Barry or Jared can shed some light on this. The results are a little choppy looking, so don't plan on shooting a feature on 60p and speeding it all up 200% and expect to get good looking results. I think you may need some more serious processing software for that.

If this were an episode of Mythbusters, I would say this is "plausible", but I think we need a more expert opinon on the subject to prove it.

-Ray
 
Shoot24p said:
It's actually keyframed gamma correction. Over-driven gamma blooms the highlights and blows out the image, so I think it looks a little more organic than dip-to-color. I'll also keyframe a little gausian blur with the gamma to soften the effect.
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Ohh. Great reading. I got lot of info regarding the footage. Unfortunately I didnt see the footage.Cause I cant download that. Can you please email me the footage. I will be greatful to you.

Thanks

mADman.apon@gmail.com
 
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