VenezuelanD
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a little late, but here is the 48hour version of a film that I shot on my HVX in Louisville, KY
Lemme know what you guys think!
Lemme know what you guys think!
48hr film project in Louisville
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SurJones
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I dont know, I just was not feeling it, I like the end title sequence I thought the most profession looking was the garage scene.I just did not feel the chemistry between the actors, her lines seem to be robotic to his..The male actor seemed to be trying to hard to act. His role was just not to convincing. Also why the need for the car to peel out? Why Such a big suit case for the dinner napkin? why not a tie it in to something else like: a babys cloth diaper.
Now I know you shot this is 48 hours, so that just might be it.
Now I know you shot this is 48 hours, so that just might be it.
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Barth Gimble
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.....good sound goes a long way......
VenezuelanD
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Barth I agree with you about the sound issue, but it was something that was out of my personal control. I didn't direct this film, merely filmed it, the second rooftop garage scene was shot by someone else with an XL2 which was not properly converted. The sound issue spawned from a bag being left at the dock when we went out with the boat, the headphones, my longsleeve black shirt (hence my arm in half the boat shots! ugh) and batteries among other things where left in that boat and we didnt have the time to go back to get them. Since we didn't have a power for the boom we had to settle with the camera mic.
The director is working on a cut with some ADR, all the dialog seen in this version of the film was ADRd in a very haphazard way in order to just get some workable sound within the deadline.
As for the napkin, well that was the prop. This is a 48 hour film, that means you get a line of dialog (I promise it wont happen again), a prop (nakpin), a character (natalie wordman police officer) and a genre (we got action adventure).
The director is working on a cut with some ADR, all the dialog seen in this version of the film was ADRd in a very haphazard way in order to just get some workable sound within the deadline.
As for the napkin, well that was the prop. This is a 48 hour film, that means you get a line of dialog (I promise it wont happen again), a prop (nakpin), a character (natalie wordman police officer) and a genre (we got action adventure).
SurJones
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I have never had the Chance to do one of these. I love the map on the napkin though. Looked good and the map looked like a Real treasure map.
I am sorry you had some many problems with the shoot. Is this your first one? What would you say was the most difficult part of this 48 hour adventure?
I am sorry you had some many problems with the shoot. Is this your first one? What would you say was the most difficult part of this 48 hour adventure?
n8ture
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When I looked at it, all the audio was echoing. If this the way it was supposed to be or is it just messing up on my Mac? I stopped about half way through because the double audio was driving me nuts.
What I saw I thought looked pretty good for only 48 hours of work.
It'll be nice to see the 100 hour edit and see how it improves it.
What I saw I thought looked pretty good for only 48 hours of work.
It'll be nice to see the 100 hour edit and see how it improves it.
Barth Gimble
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...Sorry man....having commented on your vid, I'm not sure how I would've fared in a competition like that. The logistics are a bit mind boggling to me....and I'm affraid I'd be too much of a perfectionist to even get outta the gate. And the weather here the past few weeks woulda put the nail in it for me. You see the CJ article on Saturday?VenezuelanD said:
VenezuelanD
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n8ture; There should be no audio echoing, the dialog lines where ADRed (I wouldnt even call it that, we had the actors say the lines to an old condenser mic without watching playback!...there was no time we were still editing) so they dont match up perfectly and may look slightly out of sync, but there shouldnt be an echo.
Perhaps you clicked on the quicktime window, thus opening a second quicktime window on top, and were streaming two at the same time? I know thats happened to me before.
SurJones: The biggest problem is having a good crew and a tight story. Our crew was very green and I think the director made the mistake of letting too many people contribute to the script, we didnt even have a locked idea until midnight on friday (And only after he kicked everyone out of the room till he worked out a solid idea, which i feel he should have done from the beginning) and I didn't see a draft of the script till the next day (our shooting day). I know me and the director plan on working on one next year, how many of the people in our crew work with us again I dont think is quite locked down yet. I'll tell you this, if i do this next year and he comes at me with another 5 location script i'm just gonna slap him
The time of it is always very difficult, we had some key members back out at the last second, locations cancel the day of shooting (that rooftop scene where the runner gets shot was originally going to take place in this really creepy abandoned warehouse, we lost two hours right there)
Then again all these are issues that would have been resolved with a tight script. Get as much pre production done as you can, lock down as many locations as you possibly can. We had 11 locations locked down before we friday began, about 3 cancelled, 2 were maybes, but it allowed us a choice.
Lastly I would say working with crew you are unfamiliar with ,or with volunteers who certainly want to help, but maybe they havent worked on films before can be very trying. I would say towards the end of the day we had the kinks worked out and where much more efficient. So having a crew you've worked with before will help tremendously.
Barth:
I agree with your critcisms of the film, the sound is obviously the biggest issue, and one that I feared the most. I'm a cinematographer, and while I would have loved to have pulled Silent Film, sound is 50% of the whole film. I feel like the bad dialog def took away from our sound design, which is otherwise amazing for a 48 hour project, note that the music is original, and our composer created the montage track between friday and saturday WITHOUT seeing any footage. Then he used some of his old compositions to come up with the sound track for the boat scene between saturday and sunday.
And yeah I caught the CJ article, I saw that film at screenings but I didnt really enjoy it that much, it had an alright payoff, but the build up was just too long/not engaging enough, maybe it could have been a 4 minute film instead of a 6 minute film.
You'd be surprised how much you can repress that perfectionist streak when you set your mind to it, trust me I would have loved to have a whole weekend just to shoot some of these scenes, shotlists were being made up and abandonned on the spot, I had to constantly check the clock and decide if the next shot was worth the time sacrifice or if we could make due without it, and it hurts to scrap shots!
Overall though I am very satisfied with the project we managed to pull together in such a short amount of time. Having seen all the other films at the screenings I think we're a legitimate contender in a few awards, and perhaps in the top 3 for best of louisville, though I dont think our odds are very high in that regard.
Perhaps you clicked on the quicktime window, thus opening a second quicktime window on top, and were streaming two at the same time? I know thats happened to me before.
SurJones: The biggest problem is having a good crew and a tight story. Our crew was very green and I think the director made the mistake of letting too many people contribute to the script, we didnt even have a locked idea until midnight on friday (And only after he kicked everyone out of the room till he worked out a solid idea, which i feel he should have done from the beginning) and I didn't see a draft of the script till the next day (our shooting day). I know me and the director plan on working on one next year, how many of the people in our crew work with us again I dont think is quite locked down yet. I'll tell you this, if i do this next year and he comes at me with another 5 location script i'm just gonna slap him
The time of it is always very difficult, we had some key members back out at the last second, locations cancel the day of shooting (that rooftop scene where the runner gets shot was originally going to take place in this really creepy abandoned warehouse, we lost two hours right there)
Then again all these are issues that would have been resolved with a tight script. Get as much pre production done as you can, lock down as many locations as you possibly can. We had 11 locations locked down before we friday began, about 3 cancelled, 2 were maybes, but it allowed us a choice.
Lastly I would say working with crew you are unfamiliar with ,or with volunteers who certainly want to help, but maybe they havent worked on films before can be very trying. I would say towards the end of the day we had the kinks worked out and where much more efficient. So having a crew you've worked with before will help tremendously.
Barth:
I agree with your critcisms of the film, the sound is obviously the biggest issue, and one that I feared the most. I'm a cinematographer, and while I would have loved to have pulled Silent Film, sound is 50% of the whole film. I feel like the bad dialog def took away from our sound design, which is otherwise amazing for a 48 hour project, note that the music is original, and our composer created the montage track between friday and saturday WITHOUT seeing any footage. Then he used some of his old compositions to come up with the sound track for the boat scene between saturday and sunday.
And yeah I caught the CJ article, I saw that film at screenings but I didnt really enjoy it that much, it had an alright payoff, but the build up was just too long/not engaging enough, maybe it could have been a 4 minute film instead of a 6 minute film.
You'd be surprised how much you can repress that perfectionist streak when you set your mind to it, trust me I would have loved to have a whole weekend just to shoot some of these scenes, shotlists were being made up and abandonned on the spot, I had to constantly check the clock and decide if the next shot was worth the time sacrifice or if we could make due without it, and it hurts to scrap shots!
Overall though I am very satisfied with the project we managed to pull together in such a short amount of time. Having seen all the other films at the screenings I think we're a legitimate contender in a few awards, and perhaps in the top 3 for best of louisville, though I dont think our odds are very high in that regard.
Greggl
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We delivered our 48 for the Miami yesterday. Hehe... Miami was: Art Cordova - Circus Performer, Clipboard and "Stand aside, We've got to get through." We pulled Martial Arts after passing on Musical.
You guys had an ambitious shoot for sure!
BTW, I'm getting the double echo on a MAC too, btw... something is busted in the movie clip.
You guys had an ambitious shoot for sure!
BTW, I'm getting the double echo on a MAC too, btw... something is busted in the movie clip.
Of course I would like to think I would schedule it for some sleep.
TimothyJinx
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Daniel,
Hey how are ya. We (OfficeRocker Productions) competed in the contest here in Louisville as well. We drew silent film (ouch). We had the film Silent Promise. It was quite a stretch for us since we are used to doing comedy. It turned out ok but not nearly as well as we had hoped. But it was fun and we learned a lot.
I can't get your link to play. Was your film screened the first night? Was it the one with the map that had the little interstate graphics? If so I thought it was pretty good. But there were so many it's hard to remember them all - they start to run together after a while. I plan on buying a DVD of all the films through Sheila.
Hope to see you at the wrap party.
Tim
Hey how are ya. We (OfficeRocker Productions) competed in the contest here in Louisville as well. We drew silent film (ouch). We had the film Silent Promise. It was quite a stretch for us since we are used to doing comedy. It turned out ok but not nearly as well as we had hoped. But it was fun and we learned a lot.
I can't get your link to play. Was your film screened the first night? Was it the one with the map that had the little interstate graphics? If so I thought it was pretty good. But there were so many it's hard to remember them all - they start to run together after a while. I plan on buying a DVD of all the films through Sheila.
Hope to see you at the wrap party.
Tim
VenezuelanD said:
VenezuelanD
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Sur,
Thanks, yeah the adrenaline was flowing. We managed to get redbull to sponsor us and get us 3 cases of the stuff for free, as the director so aptly put it: I think my bloodtype just changed to redbull. The sugar crash on monday was horrible though.
Kprince,
Do you mean the topic was overdone? It is a 48r film project and yeah its extremely cliche and the dialog is very campy, but that was purposeful. When you have that short a timeline, working on a random genre it can get tough for some of us to evolve and think different.
I am unsure as to what you are asking to evolve wether just 48hour films, or the actual film we made.
Thanks, yeah the adrenaline was flowing. We managed to get redbull to sponsor us and get us 3 cases of the stuff for free, as the director so aptly put it: I think my bloodtype just changed to redbull. The sugar crash on monday was horrible though.
Kprince,
Do you mean the topic was overdone? It is a 48r film project and yeah its extremely cliche and the dialog is very campy, but that was purposeful. When you have that short a timeline, working on a random genre it can get tough for some of us to evolve and think different.
I am unsure as to what you are asking to evolve wether just 48hour films, or the actual film we made.
andy_starbuck
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The quicktime plugin is buggy. I couldn't get it to play either, but hacked through the html to construct a link that allowed me to play it. I'll send you the direct link that will play in a private message. You can decide whether to post it.
I was with JustUs League. This is my third 48. You know, anything that can go wrong will go wrong during these "film school weekends".
I thought the production quality and sound was really good for a 48. There's never time to do a proper sound mix. If you have music and sound effects mixed in at all and understandable dialogue ou are lucky.
Oh man. I've been by those fountains where the drop was made. And I remember thinking "this would be a beautiful place to shoot a scene."
A few questions: Did you shoot in 480i squeeze or in 720p and downrez? What frame rate? Did you use the default scene files? Did you have to go to letterbox for the submission? I'd heard they won't switch the projector for widescreen. What did you edit it in? I thought I saw a couple of effects in post. Did you have time or try to do any color correction?
Nice work.
I was with JustUs League. This is my third 48. You know, anything that can go wrong will go wrong during these "film school weekends".
I thought the production quality and sound was really good for a 48. There's never time to do a proper sound mix. If you have music and sound effects mixed in at all and understandable dialogue ou are lucky.
Oh man. I've been by those fountains where the drop was made. And I remember thinking "this would be a beautiful place to shoot a scene."
A few questions: Did you shoot in 480i squeeze or in 720p and downrez? What frame rate? Did you use the default scene files? Did you have to go to letterbox for the submission? I'd heard they won't switch the projector for widescreen. What did you edit it in? I thought I saw a couple of effects in post. Did you have time or try to do any color correction?
Nice work.
VenezuelanD
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Andy,
We shot 720 24pn, I wanted to go DVCpro 50 because of the workflow to DV would be better, but we decided to stay on 720p and suffer the downconversion because A. we knew the projector was going to be crap, but we are making an HD print for ourselves.
Our workflow was 8gig card to my laptop and then to a portable harddrive. The harddrive is then driven to the editor who is working on Premier. So we have a copy of the 8gig card on my Laptop, plus one on the portable harddrive, plus the copy on the avid machine. (because you know if we dont have triple redundancy something WILL go wrong)
Edited in Premiere in a 720 timeline and then exported as a 480 24p .avi file, using letterboxing , imported that back to premier as a regular timeline and printed it to tape.
I did a little change to the scene files, I forget the exact numbers, but I know i brought up the color themp a tad and lowered the setup a bit and changed the detail coring, all in cinegama D...I'll double check see if i still have that scene saved to post the actual numbers
Unfortunately due to the numerous sound problems with the boat scene I did not have time to do any color correction.
There are two effects, a small aftereffects added muzzleflash for the gunshot scene and the noise added to match the static in the soundtrack in the same scene. Oh and the title...which is at the end for some reason.
We shot 720 24pn, I wanted to go DVCpro 50 because of the workflow to DV would be better, but we decided to stay on 720p and suffer the downconversion because A. we knew the projector was going to be crap, but we are making an HD print for ourselves.
Our workflow was 8gig card to my laptop and then to a portable harddrive. The harddrive is then driven to the editor who is working on Premier. So we have a copy of the 8gig card on my Laptop, plus one on the portable harddrive, plus the copy on the avid machine. (because you know if we dont have triple redundancy something WILL go wrong)
Edited in Premiere in a 720 timeline and then exported as a 480 24p .avi file, using letterboxing , imported that back to premier as a regular timeline and printed it to tape.
I did a little change to the scene files, I forget the exact numbers, but I know i brought up the color themp a tad and lowered the setup a bit and changed the detail coring, all in cinegama D...I'll double check see if i still have that scene saved to post the actual numbers
Unfortunately due to the numerous sound problems with the boat scene I did not have time to do any color correction.
There are two effects, a small aftereffects added muzzleflash for the gunshot scene and the noise added to match the static in the soundtrack in the same scene. Oh and the title...which is at the end for some reason.