Where to buy online VERY powerfull computer?

macgregor

macgregor

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Hello, i need a really fast and powerfull PC to work with Vegas. I was thinking in spending around $3,5k (including 1 Tb of HDDs).

I think the best to have is a Pc with 2 amd opteron processors. That makes a total of 4 processors working together.

Do you know if vegas will benefit from this? Or it will be as fast as a Pentium D or core duo 2?

And most important. Do you know any online store to ask fot such a configurations?
 
Unless you're working strictly with HD footage, I think that you can get away with a pentium D or core duo. I just purchased a new pc from Dell with a 3.0ghz pentium D, 4gb of RAM, a 256mb ATi card with hypermemory, and a new audio blaster sound card, with a 19 in. digi flat panel for around $1,300+. Hell of a deal if you ask me, and plenty of power for editing SD video.

You've just got to weigh your options and decide which is the best path for you in the long run. Do you need a super expensive, ultra power pc? or do you just need something with enough balls to get the job done quickly?
 
I don't think Vegas (or any other NLE on the market currently) supports 4 cores. I can't verify that for sure though. I think it will be some time before 4 cores become useful. Heck, there's still plenty of software out there that can't utilize two much less four!

Right now I'd go with the new Intel Core 2 Duo chips.
 
Uhmm, right now i have a Pentium D at 3.6.

I need something faster.

So i dont know if i should go to

x2 operons (making a total of 4 processors) or,

intel pentium extreme edition 3,7

but both solutions are quite expensive.
 
Thanks shaw. so should i go for the

Intel® Pentium® Extreme Edition 965 3733 mhz ?

or Intel® Core 2 Extreme X6800EE?

or Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 661?
 
Lawsuit_Boy said:
Unless you're working strictly with HD footage, I think that you can get away with a pentium D or core duo. I just purchased a new pc from Dell with a 3.0ghz pentium D, 4gb of RAM, a 256mb ATi card with hypermemory, and a new audio blaster sound card, with a 19 in. digi flat panel for around $1,300+. Hell of a deal if you ask me, and plenty of power for editing SD video.

You've just got to weigh your options and decide which is the best path for you in the long run. Do you need a super expensive, ultra power pc? or do you just need something with enough balls to get the job done quickly?
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And where did you find this deal?
 
Personally, I would only get a Core 2 Duo. Probably the E6700 rather than the X6800. Maybe even the E6600 since it can overclock so darn well. The thing is you can easily match the performance of the X6800 with the cheaper processors by doing some minor overclocking. If you're big into overclocking there have been reports of 4Ghz overclocks using air cooling! Unfortunately, I don't know enough about overclocking myself.

Do NOT buy a Pentium 4 or Pentium D if you can avoid it. They're power hungry, slow processors even though they have high clock rates (3+ Ghz). The new intel processors slay both of them in performance and power consumption (and, consequently, heat output).

I don't know how soon you need a new system but 4 core Core 2 processors are due out by the end of the year. Probably the best option if you're set on 4 cores.

Dell is selling systems with the new Core 2 Duo CPUs now in their top of the line gaming systems. Expensive suckers but if you need the best performance it could be worthwhile. Of course, building your own system would be less expensive than buying from Dell. :)
 
i'm using a dell inspiron 8500 laptop with pentium 4 (it's almost 4 years old) and vegas works fine for me despite the slow down when using magic bullets. AND i'm even using an externam 250gb usb HD - not frewire. outside of rendering i have no problems in editing.
 
Yeah MB pwns my Pentium 4 ( 3.01gHz) ESPECIALLY on HDV.... Well render times aren't bad on SD footage at all ( I also have 2.5 gigs of ram, 128 nVidia card ) but on HDV thats really where the wait is. So looks like I will upgrade to a Core 2 Duo when those come out and see if they can bring down my render times.
 
I am almost certaily going for the e6700 instead of the x6800.

6700 is half the price of the 6800. €500 vs €1000

Well that is good. The system will cost 2,5k but i dont think i can build anything faster right now.
 
I read all about the fact that pentium D's are "power hungry", slow processors, but so far I've had some great results. I guess it all comes down to, "does the computer do what you need it to do?" and the answer is yes, it does. So I'm satisfied with the D. (4 gigs of ram helps too)
 
I'm getting ready to put together about a PC myself.

Focus on getting excellent hard drives, & high grade ram. The processor is important, but so far in this thread it seems like too much weight is being put on it.

I recommend Intel, always. I've built several workstations over the years and AMD's always disappoint me. I'll make a car analogy. An AMD's like a Fiero. Sure it can go fast, but they're poorly made and flimsy. Trust me, I'm not bias. I've owned several AMD and Intel systems. I used an AMD K6 166mhz system for a long time back in the late 90's. Then I went with a P3 system. Then I built a dual AMD XP system, thought I'd give AMD another chance and see how they matured as a cpu maker. I won't take that chance again. After that I bought a P4 and it served me well for many years. Intel's just feel solid to me.

Hard Drives: Build a RAID array and get those most out of your disks. Your system disk will be ok as a standard serial ata drive, but make everything else smoking. Actually a serial ata drive as your system disk will out perform even the fastest SCSI's as system disks believe it or not. The operating system aren't what need the blazing speed of such drives. The programs you'll be using will when it comes to storage and recall.

RAM: find and use the highest grade possible. Don't get any of that value ram junk. I recommend top of the line OCZ, Mushkin, or Corsair.

CPU: Get a dual core Xeon if you can. I'm looking at one on newegg right now. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819117079

I wouldn't try to get a quad cpu system just yet. I totally agree about most systems not even being able to support dual cpu's, let alone quad. You'll save yourself some money.

The thing you have to keep in mind about processor's is; back in the old days 300mhz seemed like a lot, and 1ghz seemed so much higher than that. After the cpu were so fast you as a person couldn't really tell the difference in speed at the operating system level from a 1.4ghz system to a 2.66ghz system. It's like saying I have $3,050,000, but you only have $3,000,000. It kind of doesn't matter at that level. You're both rich! Now when it comes to more intense applications like 3d, video editing and multilayered music you'll start to feel the need for more speed and bandwidth.

Another thing, speed isn't always the answer. Certain cars will be able to go fast, like the Fiero, but a Ferrari will go fast too and with much more style and stability. Build a system with integrity in mind over speed. The first will almost always insure the last.
 
David Jimerson said:
One wonders how "poorly made and flimsy" can be applied to AMD processors. Care to elaborate?
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I was just thinking the same thing. It's just an opinion, which is cool, but personally I've had great runs with AMD's processors. Intel and AMD are about on the same level for me. Couldn't tell you which I like more.

But noct made a good analogy about the fiero and ferrari. You just want to build a good, solid system that can handle what you're doing with it, and maybe have a little extra room for improvement in the future. That's my take at least.
 
I've had no problems with AMD's. In fact this is my 3rd build using and A64 X2 3800 Dual core and temps are cool and runs efficiently just like my past 2500xp barton that I used for the last 3 years. It just comes down to personal preference.
 
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