M. Night Shyamalan to Direct Harry Potter?

Super Trooper said:
Moriarty summed it up quite nicely here:

http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23916
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I just read that... compare that with my post above... that's my point exactly. That's why I put the word "pretentious" in RED (color red... get it)... it's ALWAYS so pretentious... which is why I also said "duped"...

I sat in a special live interview showing attached to that documentary of The Village... and it had an interview session with MNS at the end where a camera in various theaters would allow filmstudents to ask him questions... I'm sticking with Moriarty's assessment as well as my own.

Market your movie to completely isolate the thrust of the movie from the actual story... and yes, audiences are more likely to be surprised. To me that is hardly a twist... I gotta' side with Seth McFarland. If you promote your movie and totally stick to a sideline of the story... and put that in a pretentious air of "expect the unexpected"... then yeah, it wasn't what I expected... If I put a green beans wrapper on a can of creamed corn I'll bet my girlfriend will be surprised when she fixes dinner... then I'll spring out and say "that's the twist!"

Then she can say "well you fooled me... I thought it was green beans... and I guess I like creamed corn so I'll eat it anyway... oh what am I saying... YOU'RE A FREAKIN' GENIUS!"
 
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I'm looking forward to Lady in the Water, because I like the premise, and it sounds like it's old school fun...

I think M.Night has great classic potential directing, but he really needs to stop acting. Really.

And Singer has been nothing but mediocre since "The Usual Suspects" which was brilliant, IMHO. :beer:



EDIt : Maybe I should stop reading this thread 'cause I want to know no info. on Lady going into it...





RED # wish I was higher
 
Super Trooper said:
sounds awesome. is it for television or behind the scenes dvd kinda thing?.
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i'm producing/editing the DVD bonus features.

Super Trooper said:
nah. even if you dismiss the above, ( and come one, he comes off like a prick) he is without a doubt an ego maniac. Not knowing him personally, I can't vouch for the whole asshole thing, only knowing what I've heard from people who have worked on the set with him (grips, tech dudes, interviewers). But, I have seen all of his films and I know this man has one of the biggest heads in the industry.
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well, maybe i'm biased because i count night, jose and a few others at blinding edge as acquaintances now, but in my opinion what people are assuming is ego-mania is really just a filmmaker that is very confident in his ideas. some of those ideas will fail public scrutiny. but why shouldn't he do himself the courtesy of believing in what he's doing? i guess we all need scapegoats with which to distract us from our own insecurities about what we believe in.

and he's far from an asshole. in fact, he's kind of touchy-feely. he's a hugger, and a cheek kisser (with the ladies). but a very amiable, friendly guy. the only time i even saw him get mad was at chris doyle because chris wanted to shoot something that night wanted the second unit to handle.
 
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MattinSTL said:
Market your movie to completely isolate the thrust of the movie from the actual story... and yes, audiences are more likely to be surprised. To me that is hardly a twist... I gotta' side with Seth McFarland. If you promote your movie and totally stick to a sideline of the story... and put that in a pretentious air of "expect the unexpected"... then yeah, it wasn't what I expected... If I put a green beans wrapper on a can of creamed corn I'll bet my girlfriend will be surprised when she fixes dinner... then I'll spring out and say "that's the twist!"

Then she can say "well you fooled me... I thought it was green beans... and I guess I like creamed corn so I'll eat it anyway... oh what am I saying... YOU'RE A FREAKIN' GENIUS!"
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Night doesn't market his own movies. the studios have the honor of trying to second guess what audiences want an "m night shyamalan" film to be. over lunch one day, he and i discussed his frustration with the marketing campaigns attached to all his films, but mostly for the village. this struggle is exactly why you saw such differing perceptions of the film between the trailers that were released for lady in the water.
 
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i see your point, cy.

Hey, what was Doyle like anyways? Did you ever talk to him? I'm not calling him God or anything, but, um, he's pretty close in my book.
 
cygnet74 said:
and he's far from an asshole. in fact, he's kind of touchy-feely. he's a hugger, and a cheek kisser (with the ladies). but very amiable, friendly guy. the only time i even saw him get mad was at chris doyle because chris wanted to shoot something that night wanted the second unit to handle.
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Doyle is my favorite cinematographer, and somewhat of an inspiration (age-wise). What was he like on set ?That's another reason I want to see this flick, to see how well his collaboration works with M Night.


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in spending time on the set and interviewing Christopher Doyle, i quickly realized what an eccentric mad-genius he is. you'll see that much more of this film is handheld than other shyamalan films. this is the contribution of Doyle's aesthetic. wait until you see his section in the making of doc im producing. he is astoundingly earnest about art, but never stops laughing at his own "pretentiousness". i mean, he wears a headband made out of caution tape for most of the interview simply because he saw it sitting there on the table beside him. picked it up and wrapped it around his head. the film's publicist was fuming. he's great.
 
speaking of which, "Fallen Angels" is on AZN Television to night in celebration of the Great Directors month. Sit back and watch Doyle go to work.

I must say though, some of his best work was in 2046 and Happy Together(my personal fav).

Holy crap, I just looked at his IMDB page-I didn't know he did Infernal Affairs and Hero too. Ok, now he's God.
 
Super Trooper said:
speaking of which, "Fallen Angels" is on AZN Television to night in celebration of the Great Directors month. Sit back and watch Doyle go to work.

I must say though, some of his best work was in 2046 and Happy Together(my personal fav).

Holy crap, I just looked at his IMDB page-I didn't know he did Infernal Affairs and Hero too. Ok, now he's God.
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Hero is why night and jose pursued him.
 
cygnet74 said:
in spending time on the set and interviewing Christopher Doyle, i quickly realized what an eccentric mad-genius he is. you'll see that much more of this film is handheld than other shyamalan films. this is the contribution of Doyle's aesthetic. wait until you see his section in the making of doc im producing. he is astoundingly earnest about art, but never stops laughing at his own "pretentiousness". he's great.
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If he's anything as interesting as some of the print articles i've read, then it sounds like a cracker. I even have one of his quotes :

"So don't get confused by digital or non-digital, or money or not - just do the f*****g best film you can do with your abilities at the time. I mean, why else do we make films? "



I mean he's probably (from what i've read) one of the most cerebral guys with the art, while remaining somewhat childlike in intuitiveness. I watched the "White Countess" just for his superb work, and saw Last Life in the Unviverse 'cause he Dp'd it. BTW - since the man drinks Guinness he is near perfect. :beer::beer::beer:


Cheers.
 
Policar said:
John, realy great list, I'm surprised by how much I agree with you.

Still...Peter Jackson has never impressed me much at all (blasphemy, I know...) and I think Lynch and Bay, while not always great in a conventional sense, have unique abilities that no one else can match. Also, where's Raimi? I think he's right up there with Spielberg and Cameron.

By the way, you should check out the trailer for my new project since you're the only one on the forums that actually watched my last one. This one's different.
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Hi Policar !

Long time no 'talk'. Ill totally check out your next thing (What's the URL?)

I would say Raimi as well (i didn't list every director ever) and toally see your point on Jackson:

Bad Taste
Dead-Alive - I think I am capable of at least this level of filmmaking
Heavenly Creatures

The Frightener's <<<<<<< A Qauntam Leap in his filmmaking prowness. THis is where I blieve PJ 'Got it.'

The rest of them.

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I just cannot do Lynch. Perhaps it is beyond me but I find his work so slow and nonsensical. As if he cant concentrate or something. I loved Twin Peaks but everythign else has been; blah ...

I love Bay as well; but find his work too candy coated and glossy. I have yet too see anything serious from him and until then I think of him as the glitterman.
 
John_Hudson said:
I love Bay as well; but find his work too candy coated and glossy. I have yet too see anything serious from him and until then I think of him as the glitterman.
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What about The Island? I found that movie fantastic, and serious to boot.
 
Brandon Rice said:
What about The Island? I found that movie fantastic, and serious to boot.
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It was half a movie, then degenerated into an overblown effects display...:Drogar-BigGrin(DBG) I'm torn on it. It was interesting for awhile BUT there was nothing new in it. Logan's Run, THX1138, The Matrix, Gattica and a couple of others I can't remember right now. It "borrowed" liberally from all of them.
 
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michael bay is rotten hyped dribble. I havent been able to sit through one MB film YET. i havent seen the island but i heard good things but i worry becuase its MB. and transformers.... he'll find a way to ruin it.
 
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