DVX DV compression (vs.) Uncompressed CCD Data
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MalcolmOng
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According to the system requirements no...Mine just barely cuts it. I have an ibook 15" that's got 512 ram with 1.25ghz. The thing i dont have is 3000 bucks to spare. Or, probably the patience or hard disk space to lug a laptop around whereever the camera goes...I've only got a 40gb hdd in my laptop, 13gb of which is free, and my 300gb external drive requires external power...
EDIT: Forgot to say this earlier - TAKE THAT HVX! ZE DVX CAN PWN J00!! LOLZOR
EDIT: Forgot to say this earlier - TAKE THAT HVX! ZE DVX CAN PWN J00!! LOLZOR
dvx_yaaaaaay
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MalcolmOng said:
a dvx plus a 13" iBook is way less (size, weight) than a 35mm camera, yet they shoot in the field. just add a little arm to your tripod for the laptop, or get a 10' cable to have some slack. no problem. explain yourself immediately.
i would kill for an andromeda, been looking at them since i had my xl1s.
That's a good point...we realize that having a laptop connected to the camera imposes difficulties for run-and-gun jobs and such. However, I've yet to see a single movie or effects shot where the camera is not tethered to at least a monitor. In most movie sets where quality is of high importance, there is at least somebody else other than the camera man looking at the footage to make sure that the shot is good. The difference here is that you're doing both recording and monitoring on a small laptop or a tiny computer such as a mac mini. If you still want an additional(s) external NTSC or LCD monitor you can of course have that too, and it will be showing the full dynamic range of the 4:4:4 uncompressed signal, with Monitor LUTs to taste.
It all depends on what you're planning to do with the system. I've suggested to plenty of people looking to shoot run-and-gun documentaries to purchase a camera such as an HVX instead. I think the key aspect of such a job is to be there and get the difficult shots, and image quality really comes second. The self-contained form factor of a camera such as the HVX or plain DVX I think is best for this kind of environment.
However, plenty of people are shooting in set environments, using dollies for moving shots, shooting movies, commercials, greenscreen, etc. In this kind of environment, where quality is of utmost importance and you want to 'mold' the footage to fit your vision, Andromeda on the DVX offers very unique advantages that are unmatched in this price range. It's just a different tool.
Cheers!
Juan@reel-stream.com
It all depends on what you're planning to do with the system. I've suggested to plenty of people looking to shoot run-and-gun documentaries to purchase a camera such as an HVX instead. I think the key aspect of such a job is to be there and get the difficult shots, and image quality really comes second. The self-contained form factor of a camera such as the HVX or plain DVX I think is best for this kind of environment.
However, plenty of people are shooting in set environments, using dollies for moving shots, shooting movies, commercials, greenscreen, etc. In this kind of environment, where quality is of utmost importance and you want to 'mold' the footage to fit your vision, Andromeda on the DVX offers very unique advantages that are unmatched in this price range. It's just a different tool.
Cheers!
Juan@reel-stream.com
MalcolmOng
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MalcolmOng said:According to the system requirements no...Mine just barely cuts it. I have an ibook 15" that's got 512 ram with 1.25ghz. The thing i dont have is 3000 bucks to spare. Or, probably the patience or hard disk space to lug a laptop around whereever the camera goes...I've only got a 40gb hdd in my laptop, 13gb of which is free, and my 300gb external drive requires external power...
EDIT: Forgot to say this earlier - TAKE THAT HVX! ZE DVX CAN PWN J00!! LOLZOR
@ dvx yaay, i was just hoping to clarify how this andromeda thing works...Anyway although i think its nice to have, its not very practical for me in my current situation(16 year old student, totally run and gun). And as i mentioned in the quote above, i dont exactly have lots of space in my laptop, and my hard disk requires a powerpoint...not always possible considering the conditions i shoot under...If i had 3000 bucks to spare i'd spend it on a kickass gaming rig plus games. lol.
Andrew Brinkhaus
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Yeah, cause it needs to.
organism
Member
I was going to ask: Do you need a laptop or could you use a hardrive like firestore or even a standard external hardrive. If you can then this is a pretty realistic option... Then I saw the price: $3000, almost as much as another dvx. Maybe the price will come down (a lot) one day. Looks incredible though.
ChrisForbes
Well-known member
No audio either.?.? Your only recording video
Hello,
The price for the system is actually $2500 ($2000 for students and educational institutions). Our goal was to make high-quality uncompressed 4:4:4 video available to all professionals, not just those working with huge budgets. Unfortunately there is inevitably a higher cost in handling the large amount of data associated with uncompressed video, when compared to compressed formats such as DV. Still, to the best of my knowledge, the Andromeda system is the most inexpensive uncompressed full-bandwidth RGB (4:4:4) 10+bit acquisition system available for digital cinematography and effects. The system also has unique features such as wide dynamic range(10-10.5 stops) and user-programmable realtime 12-bit LUTs(gamma curves), a feature only recently matched by top-end digital cinematography systems.
The current system for the DVX is a USB device('slave'), so it has to be connected to a computer. However, in movie sets or studio setups where you commonly already have at least a monitor attached to the camera, a laptop or small computer such as a mac mini doubles as a monitor and recorder. The software also provides many features such as Monitor LUTs, histograms, etc. We understand that the form-factor poses problems for run-and-gun situations and other portable setups, however this is the best system layout in which we could achieve both high-quality and low cost, sharing components that many professionals already own.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Cheers,
Juan@reel-stream.com
The price for the system is actually $2500 ($2000 for students and educational institutions). Our goal was to make high-quality uncompressed 4:4:4 video available to all professionals, not just those working with huge budgets. Unfortunately there is inevitably a higher cost in handling the large amount of data associated with uncompressed video, when compared to compressed formats such as DV. Still, to the best of my knowledge, the Andromeda system is the most inexpensive uncompressed full-bandwidth RGB (4:4:4) 10+bit acquisition system available for digital cinematography and effects. The system also has unique features such as wide dynamic range(10-10.5 stops) and user-programmable realtime 12-bit LUTs(gamma curves), a feature only recently matched by top-end digital cinematography systems.
The current system for the DVX is a USB device('slave'), so it has to be connected to a computer. However, in movie sets or studio setups where you commonly already have at least a monitor attached to the camera, a laptop or small computer such as a mac mini doubles as a monitor and recorder. The software also provides many features such as Monitor LUTs, histograms, etc. We understand that the form-factor poses problems for run-and-gun situations and other portable setups, however this is the best system layout in which we could achieve both high-quality and low cost, sharing components that many professionals already own.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Cheers,
Juan@reel-stream.com
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