When people say that the hvx or any 1/3 chip hd camera looks bad in low light does that mean the response to black is bad, if you have high contrast between your subject and background will the background still be grainy. Like could I shoot a film nior style short without everything looking grainy if I lit it right? can someone post some well night shots.
How bad is the hvx in a well lit night scene
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darwinandpaine
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How bad?! The HVX looks fantastic in a well lit night scene --- any well lit scene. 4:2:2 kills! Check out the HVX "Grabs/Clips" portion of this site.
n8ture
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Heck, I don't think it looks bad in a not so well lit night scene. 
I was just dinkin around the other day and zoomed down the hallway where my wife was sitting reading a book with just a single light source. I don't think it looked bad.
http://www.silverphoenixllc.com/Angi2.jpg
I was just dinkin around the other day and zoomed down the hallway where my wife was sitting reading a book with just a single light source. I don't think it looked bad.
http://www.silverphoenixllc.com/Angi2.jpg
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Jim Carswell
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Those blacks look black from here.
ksteiger
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The blacks in high contrast secnes look great. It is the under exposed areas that can be noisy, although in all the shooting I have done with this camera, I have yet to see noise levels that were (A) anywhere near problematic and (B) any worse than any of the other currently popular 1/3" cameras in it's price range.
It is underexposed areas that can look murky and noisy, not the blacks, so......
It is underexposed areas that can look murky and noisy, not the blacks, so......
dcarstens
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These were interiors shot with the Redrock m2 adapter:
http://static.flickr.com/53/188315481_97415e03b0_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/61/188306093_bbb47c305e_o.jpg
This is an exterior shot with the stock lens @ 1/24 shutter:
http://static.flickr.com/69/188301995_bce2aacbf3_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/53/188315481_97415e03b0_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/61/188306093_bbb47c305e_o.jpg
This is an exterior shot with the stock lens @ 1/24 shutter:
http://static.flickr.com/69/188301995_bce2aacbf3_o.jpg
RandyRosenthal
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dcarstens said:
Beautiful interiors. I am very impressed with the shadow detail. Can you please share scene file info?
Randy
dcarstens
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General settings:
DETAIL LEVEL: 0
V DETAIL LEVEL: 0
DETAIL CORING : +4
CHROMA LEVEL: 0
CHROMA PHASE: 0
COLOR TEMP: +3
MASTER PED: -4
A.IRIS LEVEL: 0
GAMMA : CINELIKE V
MATRIX: CINE-LIKE
SKIN TONE DTL : OFF
Each of these were shot wide open on the camera, and at a f1.4 when using a 50mm on the m2.
The first scene used a 1200w HMI through the window with 216 diffusion and one bulb of a 4' Kino.
This scene had the HMI bouncing into a 6x6 bounce outside the window for rim, the Kino is bringing up the back wall on the left side, and a Mini-flo is held to the right of camera for fill.
This exterior used only the HMI into a 6x6 bounce, and the stock lens at 1/24 shutter.
DETAIL LEVEL: 0
V DETAIL LEVEL: 0
DETAIL CORING : +4
CHROMA LEVEL: 0
CHROMA PHASE: 0
COLOR TEMP: +3
MASTER PED: -4
A.IRIS LEVEL: 0
GAMMA : CINELIKE V
MATRIX: CINE-LIKE
SKIN TONE DTL : OFF
Each of these were shot wide open on the camera, and at a f1.4 when using a 50mm on the m2.
The first scene used a 1200w HMI through the window with 216 diffusion and one bulb of a 4' Kino.
This scene had the HMI bouncing into a 6x6 bounce outside the window for rim, the Kino is bringing up the back wall on the left side, and a Mini-flo is held to the right of camera for fill.
This exterior used only the HMI into a 6x6 bounce, and the stock lens at 1/24 shutter.
DavidBeier
Veteran
In a well lit scene you should have no problems. If you can, give yourself a bit more light than you need then bring it down in post as that will reduce noise.
In a not so well it night shoot, it'll still look pretty good. On the one hand, there is going to be a lot of noise but that'll be the case with any 1/3 camera. On the other hand, the 4:2:2 color space will give you some really nice deep hues and the higher lattitude of the HVX200 will help as well.
In a not so well it night shoot, it'll still look pretty good. On the one hand, there is going to be a lot of noise but that'll be the case with any 1/3 camera. On the other hand, the 4:2:2 color space will give you some really nice deep hues and the higher lattitude of the HVX200 will help as well.
I just shot a comercial for the Macau Tourism Board completely at night, with poor lighting conditions (a portable 150w light and 3 800w tungsten lights.). The camera in low light performed great. I had done a night shooting test before with no extra lights, and there was no noise whatsoever. The footage is now offline, however. I don't know if someone wants to host the footage for me, again?
dcarstens
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Even those settings I tweaked depending on how much lighting I could get done on schedule. The night exterior next to the tree had me setting the Master Ped to 0 for instance. I'd recommend shooting a number of tests to learn what the settings actually do, so that you'll be able to adjust them on the fly as the situation requires. My method was to reduce contrast when I had to work in less light in order to see more details in the dark areas.
I did not own a DVX before I got my HVX, so I'm not familiar with the exact differences in their image sensors.
I did not own a DVX before I got my HVX, so I'm not familiar with the exact differences in their image sensors.
darwinandpaine
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DavidBeier said:
I second this comment. This is the best way to assure a great-looking image.