CinePorter™ FAQ

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On your website I see pictures of the unit attached to the bottom of the camera, which i assume is the normal setup. I have had harddrive experience and wish to know if your drives give any suttle vibration that could be noticed on the video.
I assume not, but I just know every harddrive enclosure i have owned has made slight vibrations when writing to disc.
 
nycfilmmaker said:
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When are the 4GB chunks linked together, during off loading to an external drive? Or is a third party app required? Is your system FULLY supported by FCP (importing, linking etc)?
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It is as though you have copied P2 cards that were continuously recorded. So anything that supports P2 cards will support the CinePorter™. We are transparent in this case.

Does that help?

David
 
=Prodigy= said:
On your website I see pictures of the unit attached to the bottom of the camera, which i assume is the normal setup. I have had harddrive experience and wish to know if your drives give any suttle vibration that could be noticed on the video.
I assume not, but I just know every harddrive enclosure i have owned has made slight vibrations when writing to disc.
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There is absolutely no effect on the picture, since the drives are shock mounted. We went to great length to make sure of that.

David
 
Can you say Blu ray? Sure!

Can you say Blu ray? Sure!

Can you say Blu-Ray? sure!

23 gigs for $30

Barry_Green said:
Certainly a RAIDed CinePorter would cause the interchangeable feature to become overly complex and not practical.

What I'm looking for is the ability to shoot for a day and then turn the footage over to the producer at the end of the day. That's the ultimate goal here. The ability to remove and turn over the hard disk is one way to do that.


Well, another way to do it, which would be less satisfactory but perhaps more implementable, would be to have a dub mode on the CinePorter. Give the CinePorter the ability to control a firewire or USB2 drive in the same way the HVX can. Let the CinePorter directly dub its contents over to an external plug-in (preferably bus-powered) drive. That would go a long, long way towards solving the issue of interchangeable hard disks. Heck, the more I think about it, the more I think is a brilliant idea worthy of royalties! :) :thumbsup: :laugh:

Give the CinePorter the ability to execute a high-speed copy with/without verify, and that will go a long way towards resolving the desire for interchangeable hard disks. At the end of the shoot day, while you're wrapping up the gear, you plug an off-the-shelf drive into the CinePorter and execute a "dub" command, and it happily whirs away, copying and verifying its contents so that the producer can leave with a fully-intact, fully-usable copy of the day's footage on that cheap external hard disk. And making it able to bus-power that drive would be just an incredible convenience.

It's still not a perfect solution, as I can imagine some clients may have an intellectual-property issue with receiving a dub rather than the masters (and turning over the original hard drive would settle that issue) but it'd solve most of the workflow/practicality issues.

Also, consider allowing daisy-chaining the CinePorter -- the FS100 offers that for extended record times, so if you could do it too, that would be nifty.
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I *could* say blu-ray, but it'd have to be at the end of a sentence, like:

"another system that people talk about but that probably won't work because it's likely to be dead on arrival, would be Blu-Ray."

:grin:

Seriously, if blu-ray catches on that may become an option, but I'm expecting it to be completely leapfrogged by holographic (where the first generation of drives will store 300gb on a $4 strip of film). But hard disks are a universal, available-today distribution medium that doesn't require people to buy a new reader or a new deck or anything like that, which is why I think a high-speed dub mode would be a practical, for-today solution.
 
Just please make it easy for us editors. The Fat32 file limit thing is really killing us on a big project. And I'm with Barry, high speed dubbing would be so helpful. The drives and through-put are all capable. And I too worry about Blu-Ray even though my biggest client is the developer of said device. Don't think it will last very long, this non-moving media thing is ready to explode.

Don Wilson
AmericanaMediaInc.com
 
Cut2muz said:
Just please make it easy for us editors. The Fat32 file limit thing is really killing us on a big project. And I'm with Barry, high speed dubbing would be so helpful. The drives and through-put are all capable. And I too worry about Blu-Ray even though my biggest client is the developer of said device. Don't think it will last very long, this non-moving media thing is ready to explode.

Don Wilson
AmericanaMediaInc.com
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ARe you saying if it's possible for the cineporter to record in something other than FAT32 which is the De facto format in the HVX? An alternate format like HFS+

that would be great if it could be done as I'm a strict mac user.
 
if you've been to the cineporter site lately, you will notice they have given a price...my questions is on one of the pics...which looks like a DVI-input coming from the p2 card injector thing (heh). that is DVI right?!?
 
CacheMoneyVideo said:
if you've been to the cineporter site lately, you will notice they have given a price...my questions is on one of the pics...which looks like a DVI-input coming from the p2 card injector thing (heh). that is DVI right?!?
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No that's an P2 extension cord connector. In this prototype they have used a DVI connector as it's very cheap compared to other multi pin connectors.
It is not a DVI port.
 
Sorry if this has been answered but has David indicated whether the cineporter will have the external hard drive dub option ?
Also David if you can provide a simple way of naming clips and making them available to an NLE I reckon your sales will go through the roof. I know this is all more work; but I think its the company that goes the extra mile who will ultimatly corner the market.
 
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RayFrisby said:
Sorry if this has been answered but has David indicated whether the cineporter will have the external hard drive dub option ?
Also David if you can provide a simple way of naming clips and making them available to an NLE I reckon your sales will go through the roof. I know this is all more work; but I think its the company that goes the extra mile who will ultimatly corner the market.
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P2 Log
 
Thanks mcgeedigital ! I have seen the p2 log looks like agreat idea, but I am probably going to go for Edius Broadcast and the PC route. Thanks
 
that's cool, Thanks David !


I have a question about pricing...

Is it the same for both US and EU (actually ntsc and pal) ?
 
Baddack said:
that's cool, Thanks David !


I have a question about pricing...

Is it the same for both US and EU (actually ntsc and pal) ?
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You're welcome Baddack,

The price is in US dollars and for this list we will sell oversees at this price direct, plus shipping. Otherwise you will have to wait for distribution to pick them up. This is one of the reasons we are limiting the number on the list. The US units will ship first and will be the same as the European ones. There is also an explanation why a couple of pages back.

Thank you for your support!

David
 
nycfilmmaker said:
when could we send the cc #?
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Mostly for logistics, we will start the pre-orders when we officially announce the ship date. We'll announce the winner for the drawing then as well.

David
 
david - if i buy a 320 and use it as a redundant array, does this mean that i have 160gb of space that is automatically copied?

cheers,
tc
 
tonycam said:
david - if i buy a 320 and use it as a redundant array, does this mean that i have 160gb of space that is automatically copied?

cheers,
tc
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You are correct. When you set it for RAID 1 you only have a total of 160 GB of usable space.

David
 
Cut2muz said:
Just please make it easy for us editors. The Fat32 file limit thing is really killing us on a big project. And I'm with Barry, high speed dubbing would be so helpful. The drives and through-put are all capable. And I too worry about Blu-Ray even though my biggest client is the developer of said device. Don't think it will last very long, this non-moving media thing is ready to explode.

Don Wilson
AmericanaMediaInc.com
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Don,

You'll be able to copy via the FW800 as fast as your computer can take it. There is almost no overhead in that area because we have it all in hardware. You can also plug the Interface card into a CardBus slot on your computer, then it's as fast as the HD. We have been getting a consistent 30MB/s.

David
 
nycfilmmaker said:
ARe you saying if it's possible for the cineporter to record in something other than FAT32 which is the De facto format in the HVX? An alternate format like HFS+

that would be great if it could be done as I'm a strict mac user.
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We are using a modified version of FAT32, which is proprietary, but is completely transparent to the PC or MAC you will be connected to.

David
 
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