Interlace or Progessive for Wedding, Event...especially when u require editing

ncje said:
What are you broadcasting? If its like a sporting event or something similar... lecture etc. Just shoot it and edit that way... gives you some more room.
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for broadcast, its still better to shoot in interlace.
after all, too much problem in editing progressive.
 
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I don't know about that. There's no problem editing 30p or 25p, and 24p is extremely easy to edit as long as you're using an NLE that's 24p-aware.
 
Barry_Green said:
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I don't know about that. There's no problem editing 30p or 25p, and 24p is extremely easy to edit as long as you're using an NLE that's 24p-aware.
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for wedding, its better to shoot in interlace .
as for interlace for 50i, its better to shoot in1/100 for slow motion effect.
just wondering, when do we get to shoot in progessive
only for normal and fast speed footage?
as for editing purpose, sometimes, its hard to predict when to
slow down or speed up
 
finally concluding, if you want to editi any footage in slow motion
interlace is the best way to go..
other than that progressive have a better quatlity.
hence you need to plan your shot carefully before you shoot.
 
I agree with you 100% but an event like a wedding.... its almost impossible to tell what particular shot may look great in slow mo. I think John Hudson mentioned twixtor. Thats another option...... or do the slow mo anyway. I do sometimes with ok results........ depending on the footage/ amount of movement etc. If you were tracking say a diver or a single punch from a boxer thats a fast paced movement then forget it...... but this is a wedding.
 
sorry, no dvc 30 owner here.
i think it help the dvx owner alot like someone like me.
try second hand ..on the buy and sell market.
 
ncje said:
I agree with you 100% but an event like a wedding.... its almost impossible to tell what particular shot may look great in slow mo. I think John Hudson mentioned twixtor. Thats another option...... or do the slow mo anyway. I do sometimes with ok results........ depending on the footage/ amount of movement etc. If you were tracking say a diver or a single punch from a boxer thats a fast paced movement then forget it...... but this is a wedding.
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just try today shooting with f4 ( interlace mode )
for the whole wedding, i think for wedding and event,
its hard for you to find time to switch to the right mode.
for dvx, the advantage are plenty.
just need to understand more about scene file and its menu
for right now, i will be using interlace to shooting wedding.
for coporate and short film, which does not require
slow motion effect i will switch to progressive.

as wedding is all about speed and catching those important moment.

hope this help others.

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for coporate and short film, which does not require
slow motion effect i will switch to progressive.
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Actually this is easier to use slo mo because you usually plan your shots that will be slow motion before hand. Your really missing a great option by shooting weddings only interlaced.
 
remember f scene for dvx

remember f scene for dvx

ncje said:
Actually this is easier to use slo mo because you usually plan your shots that will be slow motion before hand. Your really missing a great option by shooting weddings only interlaced.
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yes, totally agree with shooting progressive as it will stand out better
in color and resolution.
i am trying to remember the setting for progressive and interlace.
interlace is
f1
f2
f3
f4
progressive is
f5
f6

all these scene file will help me to change scene
file as i shoot.
nowadays i been doing a lot of trial while shooting as well.
i realised that maybe thats one of the reason,
i seblom get to see low motion on broadcast.
only once in a while,
meanwhile, i am trying to adept my shooting
to use less speed control
shoot to edit . hence, less editing job.
just like a short film, i believe that
the best short film are those that look like there
never do any editing but yet the quality of the color and resolution
is outstanding.
 
For TV, interlaced is not better.

Progressive isn't better, either.

Both are equally acceptable.

Your choice comes down to exactly this -- the artistic style you want to achieve.

In my opinion, if you have something like a wedding, progressive shooting gives it an elegance that interlaced can't, and the extra work you have to do in order to make it look good -- careful camera movement, minding the level of light, planning for slo-mo -- are all worth it.
 
David Jimerson said:
For TV, interlaced is not better.

Progressive isn't better, either.

Both are equally acceptable.

Your choice comes down to exactly this -- the artistic style you want to achieve.

In my opinion, if you have something like a wedding, progressive shooting gives it an elegance that interlaced can't, and the extra work you have to do in order to make it look good -- careful camera movement, minding the level of light, planning for slo-mo -- are all worth it.
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just a question for slow motion effect, progressive will see to be chopping.
hence for broadcast, or even for dvd production.
 
You can bring 50i footage into a 25p project and then slow it down 50%. Then you can render as 25p and it will be smooth slo-mo. So, plan ahead of time what you want to be slo-mo and shoot it in 50i.
 
for the past two years i have been shooting weddings in 30p. i saved f4 as my 30p scene file. fcp works fine slowing down my 30p footage to 50%.

keep in mind that fcp's frame blending (which is what smooths things out) generates new "duplicate" frames by mixing fields from adjacent frames, so you will end up with frames that look interlaced.
 
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fcp works fine slowing down my 30p footage to 50%
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Good job, nice shot...
In my opinion 30p works best if you are on a steadicam....(Pans are challenge though, especially when you slow down the footage)
Strange as it sounds, combining 60i (1st camera) with 30p(2nd cam on steadicam) also gives good results...Breaks the monotomy of a long wedding video....
 
Shooting with DVX 102B Pal no 30p only 25p or 50i

Shooting with DVX 102B Pal no 30p only 25p or 50i

volcano said:
Good job, nice shot...
In my opinion 30p works best if you are on a steadicam....(Pans are challenge though, especially when you slow down the footage)
Strange as it sounds, combining 60i (1st camera) with 30p(2nd cam on steadicam) also gives good results...Breaks the monotomy of a long wedding video....
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need to take note of your video .
as some shot require slow motion effect, hence i is better than p
while most of the shot require normal or fast pace.. p is better than i
for pal model, you only have a choice of 25 p or 50 i
hence in order to be safe, for those clip that u need to edit in slow motion
its better to shoot it in i mode or p mode.

as some commented, its ok to mix p and i footage togehter.
strobing is also another factor about shooting in p mode.
hence as mention panning at 7 sec is good. or focusing on
a person in the foreground. as mention in the dvx book
pls get one if you need it, this book is a must for all dvx user.

Hence, as i mention, if you memorise your scene file
it will help you in your reaction speed.
as for event and wedding, its all about reaction speed.
capturing the moment is very important.

for short film making, of course, you can take your own
sweet time to think about it.

this will help to guide those who are new to shooting in
progressive mode.
 
as for event and wedding, its all about reaction speed.
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Well, I agree. We also stage many shots in the weddings too... Cheasier it gets, more people like it, sad but true...
i feel fortunate to be working in ntsc.
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Sometimes fortune sometimes torture ;)
 
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