Test for Red Giant's Instant HD

Inoran said:
the source picture looks muchc worse than a typical dvx screen
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It was one of my fist test shots. The lighting was very simple and I really didn't know what I was doing. I picked the clip because of all the different textures.
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PaPa said:
thats why i asked the question, because at full resolution, it wouldnt be that large on the screen, looks like its been matched to size up against the uprezzed one? I am correct in this asumption? If this is true, then WOW.
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The SD image was stetched a bit to match for the comparison, but it is the footage used. The actual frames may vary. One final note: Basically, I was under-impressed with this plug in. I think the flaw in the whole thing was the way I got the stills for the comparison. I didn't use the same program for this and the quality of the sd image was compromised and it was better than shown. I didn't feel that the difference between the two clips (watching them on a dvd) was great enough. I'm sorry if anyone was mislead because of this.
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what if you were to uprezz it and then shrink it down to SD size? Would it be higher in quality?
 
dvxwheeler, your not happy with it?

dvxwheeler, your not happy with it?

You had me sold on the plugin. I guess if it doesn't look better on the DVD I will save my money. Thanks for sharing the experience.
 
PaPa said:
what if you were to uprezz it and then shrink it down to SD size? Would it be higher in quality?
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The problem was that I got the still from a dvd authoring program which squeezed its resolution. When I put together the two stills I had to stretch the SD still back to match the resolution of the Hd still (which was made in Premiere Pro). This is how it was compromised I'm afraid. When I redid the SD still on a Premiere pro timeline the true quality of the still came out and it was only a little bit worse than the HD still. I reposted these new stills on Stickypod.com under the indie film category. I hope this helps. The best way to use this plugin would be to shoot in 4X3 mode and then use the effect to make it widescreen.
http://www.stickypod.com/videos/showphoto.php/photo/1753/limit/recent
 
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This would defeat the purpose. Pixels are all the same size, when you jump into the hd world pixels are still the same as sd pixels physicly, just a much higher count. (That's why hd tv's look so good, you can go bigger with less stretching of pixels. As opposed to old conventional tv's) Say for example a perticular pixel is displaying the color red at the moment but everything around it is black, by boosting the resolution or squashing more information into the screen is not going to make your image clearer... that pixel can not sub-divide into more colours. (It can only display one color at a time) Your 1 pixel will not be able to display that one spec of red with black all around, it needs the help of the pixels around it to get that effect.

Ever notice that when you watch standard analog shows on a hd tv it looks terrible? That because older tv's had lower resolution and were able to mask all the imperfections that we can now see on hd tv's.

I call this the billboard effect, notice that when your on the highway looking at a billboard it looks clear from far, but when you get up close and see the print dots they are multicolored to make up the color black? Same idea with a hd tv. Your standard tv can only display so much resolution, your squashing idea is good but would not work, the signal would not be the weak link, it would be the tv. This applies to computer monitors as well (Which are all essentialy super high resolution monitors, higher res than hd obviously)

Hope I didn't lose anyone in explaining this... (I used to sell High end electronics)
 
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mastertee31 said:
This would defeat the purpose. Pixels are all the same size, when you jump into the hd world pixels are still the same as sd pixels physicly, just a much higher count. (That's why hd tv's look so good, you can go bigger with less stretching of pixels. As opposed to old conventional tv's) Say for example a perticular pixel is displaying the color red at the moment but everything around it is black, by boosting the resolution or squashing more information into the screen is not going to make your image clearer... that pixel can not sub-divide into more colours. (It can only display one color at a time) Your 1 pixel will not be able to display that one spec of red with black all around, it needs the help of the pixels around it to get that effect.

Ever notice that when you watch standard analog shows on a hd tv it looks terrible? That because older tv's had lower resolution and were able to mask all the imperfections that we can now see on hd tv's.

I call this the billboard effect, notice that when your on the highway looking at a billboard it looks clear from far, but when you get up close and see the print dots they are multicolored to make up the color black? Same idea with a hd tv. Your standard tv can only display so much resolution, your squashing idea is good but would not work, the signal would not be the weak link, it would be the tv. This applies to computer monitors as well (Which are all essentialy super high resolution monitors, higher res than hd obviously)

Hope I didn't lose anyone in explaining this... (I used to sell High end electronics)
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I follow what you're saying, but I'm still puzzled. When I burn the two clips on a dvd and play them back on a HD TV, they still look almost the same. Shouldn't the HD clip (with more pixels) look much better?
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