DMX and Lou Diamond Phillips To Star In HVX shot film

[hkpictures]

Hey guys, just wanted to drop a line, we will be putting a good deal of footage up on our website in the next couple of weeks, but to date we have shot the following feature films:

This Is The Day- Shot with the HVX to tape, in post
Block Party 2- Shot with the HVX to tape, in post
Terror Bayou- Shot to the P2 cards, got comfortable with the camera, in post
Club 225- Shot to the P2 cards, in post
Death Toll- preproduction, but will go to the P2 cards, hopefully my M2 and follow focus will be in before we begin, currently have DMX and Lou Diamond Phillips attached.

I have to say I am amazed at the camera and we have a great P2 system in place, never lost a second with our method. One lesson learned though, have external hard drives in a raid array, we had a harddrive go down and had to send it off to recover the data. Other than that, super happy with the camera. This camera will enable my company to make a 10 films this year, yes, ten feature films, all with distribution, amazing piece of technology!

Will update everyone on the footage status. www.hkpictures.com and thanks to this group, many questions, help and good people here.

 

[Justyn]

Sweet indeed. Now that is why film is Dead.... thank you low-cost HD GOD.

Post some footage when you can.

 

[izoneguy]

Cool, send me your outakes!!

 

[The Sarlacc]

Now that is why film is Dead.GOD.

Film is not dead. And is no where near being dead. There are only people who make stupid statements such as "Film is dead."

Sounds like you have a good deal going on...should be "fun" working with DMX...

 

[izoneguy]

Film is almost dead in the still business, give it another 10 for cinema. Just got the Nikon D200 for stills. This is what the Nikon D70should have been. The D200 has an interval timer built-in. Lots of fun!

 

[The Sarlacc]

Film is almost dead in the still business, give it another 10 for cinema. Just got the Nikon D200 for stills. This is what the Nikon D70should have been. The D200 has an interval timer built-in. Lots of fun!

Still film is dead in the consumer still world. Its not dead yet in the professional world.

It doesnt have a lot of life left...but its not gone. I have been shooting digital stills for year now. My film bodies collect dust. This is true. I'd say still film has maybe another 10 years of life if that in the professional world.

However. I do NOT see the same thing happening to feature films, TV, and big commercials. Not for a very long time. The idea, magic, superiority and mysterium that comes with exposing celluloid is far too great. Too many producers out there know the value and roots of films.

The loss of shooting film is going to have to be breeded out, and that is going to take a long time.

 

[The Sarlacc]

And damn you for getting the D200....I hope to upgrade in a year or two. I have enjoyed my D100 thoroughly for the last two years.

 

[DavidBeier]

With cameras like the Genisis which, from what I've heard have the roughly the same resolution and DoF of film, I think only two things need to happen for film to be die in everything including feature films:

1. Digital will have to be able to handle the same lattitude as film. It's one of the few things that you still can't get around.

2. A lot of the "born and bread" film guys are going to have to retire or die.

Don't know how long this will take. I'm guessing perhaps in 20 years most films will be shot digitally (though still not all).

 

[The Sarlacc]

With cameras like the Genisis which, from what I've heard have the roughly the same resolution and DoF of film, I think only two things need to happen for film to be die in everything including feature films:

1. Digital will have to be able to handle the same lattitude as film. It's one of the few things that you still can't get around.

2. A lot of the "born and bread" film guys are going to have to retire or die.

Don't know how long this will take. I'm guessing perhaps in 20 years most films will be shot digitally (though still not all).

Except they only made a finite number of Genesis cameras...and I believe a couple were already destroyed on Superman. When they are gone, thats it, far as I have heard. I'm sure Panavision is most likely trying to work on something completely in house to avoid another Sony collaboration.

Its the Arri D20 that will put the longevity to the test.

And when you get into HD of this magnitude it really comes down to look and story more then budget.

Superman...makes sense...tons of effects, can benefit from total digital filmmaking..though they had their fair share of problems with the cameras that will most likely never be heard.

Other movies like, Nacho Libre, have no real advantage for digital. And the look for the movie is more suited towards film.

The born and bread film guys are going just fine MAINLY dealing with only film for their careers. Why? Because they took they path lead them to the bigger budget shows. Sure they use HD...some hate it, some could care less, some see it for what it is...another tool for aquisition with another look. Another option for the DP.

In the big budget world...money doesn't matter as much. HD is a choice and tool not a budget concern. The way it should be.

If there is a time for a more permananent switch it will most likely come with digital distribution to theaters...and we are a long way from that.

 

[carlone]

Films not dead yet - but it sure smells funny

Tape is dead in the music world (ask Ampex). Film will be next (give it 5-7 years).
Delivery to theaters (and homes) will be totally digital. Movies will download to your laptop (which will support blu-ray or hd-dvd). The icecaps will melt, we'll all die. 2000 years from now someone will dig up a 35mm reel and an album (Rolling Stones on vinyl of course) and think how primitave we were. Keith Richards will still be alive with a cigarette in his mouth.

Sorry for the rant

 

[Smart Alac]

Sweet indeed. Now that is why film is Dead.... thank you low-cost HD GOD.

So I guess 90% of feature films shot are all "dead" then?....

Generally, the people who say film is "dead" are the ones usually shooting wedding, corporate, training videos etc or any other similar boring crap...

 

[izoneguy]

And damn you for getting the D200....I hope to upgrade in a year or two. I have enjoyed my D100 thoroughly for the last two years.

It is a sweet camera. The problem with this cameras is you have to read the manual!! It almost has more menus and choices than the HVX.
I was watching a new Warren Miller ski film the other day.
Yes film is still the way to go for films like that.

 

[Smart Alac]

I was watching a new Warren Miller ski film the other day.
Yes film is still the way to go for films like that.

Yes, many snowboard/surf/skateboard filmers prefer 16mm over HD.... And Warren Miller does amazing stuff....

 

[DavidBeier]

Except they only made a finite number of Genesis cameras...and I believe a couple were already destroyed on Superman. When they are gone, thats it, far as I have heard. I'm sure Panavision is most likely trying to work on something completely in house to avoid another Sony collaboration.

And you really don't think they'll make more Genisis's if they catch on or other companies won't be able to reproduce something of similar quality. The bottom is we already have one HD camera that many people have sworn to me is completely indistinguishible from film.

The born and bread film guys will probably stick with it out of principle but the next generation won't. It's not a matter of Nacho Libre needing to use digital (and who cares about Nacho Libre for that matter?). It's the fact that since everyone but Speilberg edits digitally, it'll simply be more convenient to start digital.

 

[The Sarlacc]

And you really don't think they'll make more Genisis's if they catch on or other companies won't be able to reproduce something of similar quality. The bottom is we already have one HD camera that many people have sworn to me is completely indistinguishible from film.

The born and bread film guys will probably stick with it out of principle but the next generation won't. It's not a matter of Nacho Libre needing to use digital (and who cares about Nacho Libre for that matter?). It's the fact that since everyone but Speilberg edits digitally, it'll simply be more convenient to start digital.

They wont make more Genesis' thats the whole point in what I was saying, but as usual you don't read.

I also went on to say that I'm pretty sure Panavision is working on a predescessor. One that is most likely all theirs without Sony.

Superman will prove whether or not its completely indistingusiable from film. I'm sure many parts of it are, and many aren't. HD is HD...no matter what it still has its own looks and defining characteristics that give it away as not being film at somepoint.

With features of that size the cost of shooting HD is either comparable or MORE then shooting film.

I'll say it again since you seem unable to comprehend.

For big budget filmmaking HD is another tool in the box. It gives DP another choice when trying to decide what kind of a look to create. Or if they have a heavy special fx laden movie that might benefit from keep everything digital.

lets look at some budgets...XMen 3 $150mil....Superman Returns $250mil....one is film, and one is HD. Both are effects laden, and the cheaper one has a larger and much more big name/big money cast....HD is just another tool. It has nothing to do with price in this realm. This is why I brought up Nacho Libre (which looks to be AWESOME.) That movie has no rhyme or reason to be shot on HD. The look, the style, the feel all fits the characteristics of film.

Explain to me how its more conveinent to start digital? We arent talking about P2 cards here. Superman was all shot to SR tape. Collateral = SR tape. Miami Vice = SR tape.....All that means digitizing, logging, and an eventually online. Its no different than dealing with DigiBeta telecines from a film camera.

The ideal of film will not be gone in a generation. It is being passed down from one person the next. This is just like people saying Polaroid was going to kill 35mm. It didn't, it was never going, its just another tool. We don't stick with it out of priniciple. We stick with it out of passion, love, and the tactile magic of using it.

As someone else already mentioned "Generally, the people who say film is "dead" are the ones usually shooting wedding, corporate, training videos etc or any other similar events" I changed the last part because I don't view any of it as crap. Everything has got to be shot in some manner, and for certain occasions one medium is better than others.

 

[ESTEBEVERDE]

Film is not dead. And is no where near being dead. There are only people who make stupid statements such as "Film is dead."

Sounds like you have a good deal going on...should be "fun" working with DMX...

FILM IS DEAD!

LONG LIVE FILM!


Film is merely evolving like all things that exist.

Film is evolving from a chemical based medium to a solid state medium.


Whether you are an agent provocateur or merely stuck on film, it's all good.

Saying that film is "The Real Deal, The One and Only" is like saying we never should have moved on from the silent film days! It's the same as saying we should have never went to color. It's the same as saying we should have never moved from 4:3 to 16:9. It's the same as .............


Digital Cinema is an evolution of film.


This evolution is just happening at an incredible pace making stunning strides.


In closing, I would encourage you to relax, get out and get some air and human contact, and heck... go wild.... check out a talkie or two!


All the best.

Steve

 

[ESTEBEVERDE]

They wont make more Genesis' thats the whole point in what I was saying, but as usual you don't read.

I also went on to say that I'm pretty sure Panavision is working on a predescessor. One that is most likely all theirs without Sony.

...

OH MY GOD!!!

IT'S JUST LIKE PRIMER!!!

How much will a time shifting technology like that cost?!?!?!?!?

Do you think it'll be more expensive than Red?

Can I get on the waiting list???


Neat O!





XOXOXOxoxoxo.....





Seriously, get out and enjoy the day man!

It will help clear you mind.


As Always, your secret admirer.


Steve

 

[J.R. Hudson]

So I guess 90% of feature films shot are all "dead" then?....

Generally, the people who say film is "dead" are the ones usually shooting wedding, corporate, training videos etc or any other similar boring crap...

Let's assume you knew exactly what they mean when they say film is dead/film is dying/film smells funny.

Let's assume you are smart enough to agree that digital film technology is poising itself for a coup.

We dont really need another film snob to decry the momentum of technology by making snide comments about people being weddinographers or throwing out percentage stats on how many feature films are being shot on celluloid.

Film is going the way of the dino. It will be eventual.

 

[The Sarlacc]

Saying that film is "The Real Deal, The One and Only" is like saying we never should have moved on from the silent film days! All the best.

Steve

I never said film is the one and only. I embrace HD very much. I love it a lot. I do admit to playing both sides of the field, and in my part of the industry you have to to stay afloat this day in age.

All I simply said is HD is not replacing film anytime soon, and its just another tool.

 

[The Sarlacc]

Film is going the way of the dino. It will be eventual.

Perhaps, I will always keep some element of denial til the very last day. But if and when it does...it won't be within 10 years.

I don't hold myself as a film snob. I wouldn't be on here nor would I have purchased or love shooting on my HVX.

But I do get annoyed when people on here in parts of production so far removed from the needs of celluloid begin touting off statements about things to which they have no clue.