RED competition @$12,500/$20,000 range

A resolution, yes. There's also 4k, and then there are different res's depending on what aspect ratio you shot in. 2048x1556 is for a 4:3 full-frame scan, but if you shot 2.35 or 1.85 you wouldn't need all that vertical height, so you might specify 2048x1080 for a 1.85 scan, for example.
 
Why is everyone speaking as if the Silconimaging camera isnt built yet? those specs arent of the camera they wish to build, its of the camera they HAVE built. THey have even shot footage with it and posted it. One of the guys working on the camera is making a movie with it. The solution is done, its real. As far as a camera body to hold all the stuff. Well they will show that at NAB. Also, from what ive heard, Silicon Imaging will have a working model there. they wont be taking orders just yet though. But RED is gonna have a non-working model. so im not sure it RED is going to finish the process first, because siliconimaging has already done everything. But RED is sure gonna be a sick-ass camera, and top the siliconimaging camera no doubt by a long shot. It just wont be finished by NAB
 
Forrest Schultz said:
Why is everyone speaking as if the Silconimaging camera isnt built yet? those specs arent of the camera they wish to build, its of the camera they HAVE built. THey have even shot footage with it and posted it. One of the guys working on the camera is making a movie with it. The solution is done, its real. As far as a camera body to hold all the stuff. Well they will show that at NAB. Also, from what ive heard, Silicon Imaging will have a working model there. they wont be taking orders just yet though. But RED is gonna have a non-working model. so im not sure it RED is going to finish the process first, because siliconimaging has already done everything. But RED is sure gonna be a sick-ass camera, and top the siliconimaging camera no doubt by a long shot. It just wont be finished by NAB
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Last year the SI woulda killed the show... people would have gone nuts. Birds would sing and babies would be conceived. ... This year.. I dunno.. for some reason it just feels as exciting as someone announcing a really really cool SD camera.
 
Yeah, i know what you mean Jarred, i was just commenting about the people who posted saying "its a cool concept" "when they build" and i was thinking, they already did

I know what you mean about the hype. It seems really low key, no ones shouting hallejuah over it. I think a big part of it is RED. And i know your holding back alot of information too. If you werent, youd be squeezing your dong and praying like the rest of us. Spill the beans Jarred! what do you know.

you dont have to answer that, im just curious to see whats behind the curtain.
 
From what I gathered on their website, this is one helluva camera. And one big difference between the SI and the RED camera is that the latter is still vaporware in practice, albeit not in theory. I have no doubt from reading up on it that RED is going to make a huge splash on Monday, but the SI looks really, really good on its own.

Check out the Duck Variations 2.wmv footage. It's got nice detail and some cute grain. The image just looks very pleasing to the eye. And the workflow... it seems _very_ solid. In the forums they mention full platform agnosticism by the time of release in Q3 '06, so no ph34ring for the Mac:ers (of which I'm a proud one).

Lusting for either of those cameras with the RAW workflow and a brand new MacBook Pro for next spring... '06-'07 are going to be two great for Apple and the indie film industry!
 
the SI camera is a working camera. they are presenting a complete workflow using 10bit true 1920x1080 4:2:2 raw camera file workflow. uses swapable inexpensive 2 1/2 " laptop drives . your choice of lens mounts ... raid drives not required ... to stay in the 10bit RAW files you must work within premiere/AE ( adobe studio) ..currently PC based and cineform hopes to have a QT solution by Q3 06.

color space will introduce either a camera or spec's of a camera and their workflow in camera and thru post with a product called SCRATCH ( note that on scratches site they claim to be providing work flow solution for RED )
NOTE: scratch workflow is PC not mac !!! USCSI 320 or faster required , DUAL processor required.

RED will introduce their spec's , and probably few-several workflows and maybe more important ? to just about every person here and beyond a suggested PRICE !! IMO that price will have an affect on all the "buzz" at all other camera booths.

so one will have to choose more then just the camera - you'll have to look at workflow too ..
 
avocade said:
From what I gathered on their website, this is one helluva camera. And one big difference between the SI and the RED camera is that the latter is still vaporware in practice, albeit not in theory.
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I think the minds behind RED are aware and may surprise us Monday with a viable Working Proto if not a rev. a limited production working camera at a higher cost for the ones that need it.
Good PR too
 
SalaTar said:


I think the minds behind RED are aware and may surprise us Monday with a viable Working Proto if not a rev. a limited production working camera at a higher cost for the ones that need it.
Good PR too
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Did anyone see a working prototype or any footage from RED?
 
Nope, no working prototypes or R&D test footage or anything like that. They did have some Super 16mm film footage to show an example of what we'll be seeing, they aim for it to be better than Super 16 of course, but it was something to show and wasn't a main attraction.

The non-working prototypes were all they had. They don't expect footage until the late-summer/early-fall range.
 
SI-1920HDVR Vegas Footage is now online

SI-1920HDVR Vegas Footage is now online

Anyone interested?

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Thanks Ari!

EDIT -- I'm in the RED reservation list (#111) but for sure I will follow your product -- as well, your achievements.
 
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More SI-1920HDVR footage from NAB2006

More SI-1920HDVR footage from NAB2006

This clip is from Wednesday night at the CML shotout:

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