2 1/2 Hours On A Dvd?

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BergVision

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I will be shooting a live performance and putting it to DVD. I was just informed the performance runs 2 1/2 hours long or about 150 minutes. Will I be able to get this on 1 DVD?

I sure hope so because I bid the job at 1 dvd. And now I find this out.
Any Advice?
 
You can use Compressor to do it on a single sided 4.7 GB DVD by tweaking the settings but the quality will suffer.

Or if your burner will burn dual layer you could do it that way but the disks are a bit more expensive. It will also depend on what authoring software you're using. DVD Studio Pro 4 has an option to burn dual layer DVDs.
 
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Yeah -- it may not be pretty, but it'll work!

Do they make double-sided 4.7gb DVD-R discs?
 
Crap!

Crap!

Oh man! I bid the job for ONE DISC. There are going to be at least 300 copies sold! So an additional $3.00 bucks per DVD. I'm sending the masters out to be duplicated as there are just too many copies.

Grrrrr......This is the shoot I will be using the DVX100B on too so I want it to look good.

Dang. Dang. Dang.....Plan B.
 
Well definitely do a test first... will there be a lot of static shots? Maybe some stuff without too much motion? That will help you on the encode. It is definitely possible to fit it all, it will just depend on the nature of the project.
 
WEll...NO SUCH LUCK! It's all going to be shot in a Theater, with Dancers under Theater lighting!!! UGGG! Lots of motion, dancing and pans as well as Camera Crane Shots. DOH!
 
For 2 1/2 hours! Woah... maybe there's a slim chance that includes two twenty minute intermissions? :)

Will it really cost $3 extra per disc to go dual-layer? You're still on a single disc...
 
2 1/2 HOURS on DVD

2 1/2 HOURS on DVD

I'm sending the master out to be duplicated by a duplication house. I will have to find out if they can do Double Layer or not. But I beleive they charge an extra $2.36 a disc. Yes, there is an Intermission from Act 1 to Act 2. But there are 47 Dance Routines that last 3 minutes each.
I will call the dubplication company tomorrow and find out what's best, but I think I will edit and burn ACT 1 on Disc 1, and Act 2 on Disc 2.

I also have to edit together a Video Montage of the Dancers to put on the DVD so add in another 3 minutes.

It's this project that allowed me to buy the DVX100B!
When it's all said and done I should pull in around $8,500 bucks. But it's going to be a lot of work. It's 4 nights long, 2 1/2 hours each night, and could go over 350 copies needed! Potentialy there could be 800 orders for copies which would put my take home around $13,500 dollars. But I don't think we will get that many orders for copies.

Anyways, I'm just concerened now because I will have to bump up my invoice to the client. I HATE IT WHEN THEY DON'T TELL YOU EVERYTHING UPFRONT! GRRR
 
Create your project, render out at full quality, then use DVDshrink to shrink it down and creat an image (.img) that you can use to burn your copies with.

(oops, you just posted ahead of me)

They should be able to do dual layer just cost a bit more. Check with them but I think you should be able to fit all on a dual layer.
 
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Tell the performers you'll give them each an extra $25 if they keep the show under 2 hours.

Always helpful advice from PK. :)
 
DVDShrink?

DVDShrink?

(EDIT) I found DVDShrink. Thanks!__)

What is this DVD Shrink and where can I get it?
How much is it? Do you lose quality? Or is the compression good?

Cryogenic Filmworks said:
Create your project, render out at full quality, then use DVDshrink to shrink it down and creat an image (.img) that you can use to burn your copies with.

(oops, you just posted ahead of me)

They should be able to do dual layer just cost a bit more. Check with them but I think you should be able to fit all on a dual layer.
Click to expand...
 
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I've done 2 1/2 hour dvd's several times with only minimal compression artifacts. The trick to is to use a dual pass encoder that really takes advantage of a VBR setting. The last one I did was 2 hrs and 20 minutes and I really couldn't complain. Wasn't pristine on the blacks, but wasn't worse than a lot of rental dvd's either.
 
2 1/2 Hours, now problem man, just use Cinema Craft encoder (its rated as the One of the best), but if you can't get your hands on it try the following:

TMPgenc 2.5 or 3 Express
MainConcept MPEG encoder (the standalone to Vegas one)
Procoder (heard its pretty good)

Suggested settings:

Two Pass Encode (or more, beyond three, you usuallly don't see much difference)
Variable Bit Rate
Intra DC precision = 10 Bits
And Progressive Frame (of course!!) (because its HARDER to encode intelace)

The DVDshrink Idea is not bad, But you will be encoding TWICE, so its really better to try out encoding it one go, it MAY turn out better, try both ways anyway!


Anhar


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I far as I understand it, (I've used DVDshrink many a times) is that it "Shrinks" Dual layer 9 DVDs so that it can fit into single 4GB DVDs, how it does it (I'm guessing ) is that it keeps everything the same EXCEPT it reduces the intra Frames, A bit lilke taking a JPEG image and then SAVING it at a Higher Compressing setting, I'm GUESSING thats how it does it so bloody good and quickly.

BUT the Bottom line is using the DVDshrink route is ONLY a good *if* the original encode is outstanding.

In the meantime, use of the above encoders, and I'll try and write you a tutorial on how to do a two pass encode 9or find you one)
 
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