Hello Mr. Pappas, your dinner is ready!

??? Where do you see this? Canon H1's haven't dropped one single solitary penny. Dealers are *required* to sell it at full retail price, they're not allowed to discount one penny or they put their Canon reseller relationship in jeopardy. The XLH1 is $8999 no matter who you buy it from (unless you're looking at unauthorized gray-market scam shops, in which case you're just getting lied to).
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http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prodetails.asp?prodid=342803&display=2

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodetails.asp?prodid=503652&start=1

http://www.shopcartusa.com/Product/0967B001/Electronics~TV_Video~Camcorders/Canon_XL_H1/PT_Y/?ic_campID=98

I don't know if these count as gray market. Anyway, they were all about 2k more expensive when I last checked several weeks ago so I assumed there was some sort of price drop.
 
Be careful with those kind of reps rates. Follow it @resellerratings.com or bizrate.com and good luck!
 
DavidBeier said:
http://www.bestpricecameras.com/prodetails.asp?prodid=342803&display=2

http://www.expresscameras.com/prodetails.asp?prodid=503652&start=1

http://www.shopcartusa.com/Product/0967B001/Electronics~TV_Video~Camcorders/Canon_XL_H1/PT_Y/?ic_campID=98

I don't know if these count as gray market. Anyway, they were all about 2k more expensive when I last checked several weeks ago so I assumed there was some sort of price drop.
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Point made. These guy's you need to run from. If it sound's too good to be true, well, you know.

best price cameras? [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0.18[/FONT]
express cameras [FONT=Verdana,
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]0.24[/FONT]

shop cart usa ? Didn't even show up !
 
Why is it that everyone thinks you can get the camera for $2 grand less... that'd be like walking into a Ford dealer and the sticker price is $20,000 but Joe's Car Sales down the street has it for $12,000...

Or say you want to buy a house... all the houses go for $500,000 in the tract... but one is going for $400,000 either the seller is getting repoed and he needs to sell if it fast or its a fixer up and by the time you're finished it's going to cost you the same as the other houses...
 
I'm just amazed why very little is done to shut down these criminal operations. What a great topic for a 60 minutes news story.
 
No doubt

What a great topic for any one of us in the NYC Metro area in particular. Shiieett Ranger ....

I can go on and on about criminal operations in America:

Insurance Companies
Automotive Dealers
Credit Collection Agencies

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (Mumbles)
 
John_Hudson said:
shop cart usa ? Didn't even show up !
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It doesn't appear 'cause there's a smart but just another one scam behind such kind of ratings website.

See this:
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1734.html
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1895.html
http://www.resellerratings.com/seller8278.html

Barry_Green said:
No, those are all dishonest scam shops. Look 'em up on resellerratings, you'll find out there's nothing legit about the bait 'n' switch tactics they use.

You cannot buy an XLH1 from an authorized, legitimate US reseller for less than $8999.
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There is also the non-scam gray market with non-usa warranty like adorama.com with a price around $7,999.
 
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John_Hudson said:
Ouch on the head times. So for every hour of shooting it's an hour of capture ?
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This is where the portable Firestore's come into play. You can record much like a Cineporter and have a tape backup at the same time.

You drag and drop the M2t's from the Firestore to your computer drive, or even just edit off of it.

No hour of capture plus you get a handy backup. They're not cheap but it's a pretty good solution.
 
John_Hudson said:
I too get tired of flowers and would like to see footage using light and darks together ... something more dynamic in terms of latitude for example or my always favorite request examples of Chiarscura ?
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How's this for Chiarscura? Let's see some stuff like this. ;-)
ANow11.jpg


and this...
ANow9.jpg

Bladerunner11.jpg

the all time greatest role...;-)
DuneFrame5Sting.jpg
 
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John_Hudson said:
I agree Rich on several points; I too get tired of flowers and would like to see footage using light and darks together ...
something more dynamic in terms of latitude for example or my always favorite request examples of Chiarscura .
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Hi John......I couldn't agree more. Content related to narrative filmmaking in a filmmaking board would be more suitable. However,
it's not because we don't want to post shots, it's that the clients wouldn't be happy if we did. That's why I post these,
to balance the flowers out with some contrast shots that don't look like a opening montage to Little House on the Prairie.
However, there just tests and boring to boot. These don't even represent the full sharpness of the original footage either
since the frames were captured from HDV tape to SD card. Also these were -3 detail and -9 too!

Pappas

••••••••This shot was Detail -3 on the H1!
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••••••••This shot was Detail -3 on the H1!
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••••••••This shot was Detail -9 which is off for the H1!
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••••••••PROMIST FILTER EFFECT ON THIS SHOT WITH A LOW CON EFFECT TOO! THIS SHOT HAS THREE PASSES OF MEDIUM JPEG SINCE IT WAS ADJUSTED FOR TESTING ONLY.
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•••••••• -5 DETAIL ON THIS SHOT--FULL TELEPHOTO AT 16X.
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••••••••This shot too was Detail -9 which is off for the H1!
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•••••••• THIS SHOT WAS 16X FULL TELE WITH -3 DETAIL • 81B FILTER • Focus was off, I hit the wall ( Duh ) instead of me! Opps- Cameron would have been pissed!
FOR THE NOSTALGIC; THAT IS A TRUE "EARL" SLATE GIVEN TO ME FROM DON AND HIS WIFE WHEN I WAS 15YRS OLD.
DON WAS THE BIG MAN OF THE 65MM DIVISION AT PANAVISION LA. This was the begining of my love for 65MM...
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Michael Pappas
Arrfilms@hotmail.com
PappasArts & Arrfilms Main site
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AT { PAPPASARTS2 }
XLH1 and HVX200 frame grabs and news here:
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http://www.Myspace.com/PappasArts
 
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The HVX300 will for sure be a camera to start putting the penny's away for. However, in the meantime the HVX200 is an amazing camera for the money. I so look forward to seeing films shot with it. Hell, I can't wait to film with it too! Tapeless is very nice! Love the work flow of tapeless! "THE WAY OF THE FUTURE" "THE WAY OF THE FUTURE" "THE WAY OF THE FUTURE""THE WAY OF THE FUTURE""THE WAY OF THE FUTURE""THE WAY OF THE FUTURE""THE WAY OF THE FUTURE""THE WAY OF THE FUTURE"...... Damn, OCD took over!.......................



soarprod said:
Just imagine what a HVX300 with bigger chips & better lens would do? By then, we may have 64 to 128GB P2. All the strengths and none of the weaknesses.

So anyone willing to mirror? I am at 39GB transfered of 50GB per month.
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Good grabs Pappas - Too bad that all these 1/3" cams have some CA on the long tele. Like the shot with the kids over on the right of the frame. JVC has a solution but @ $8K for the lens, makes you want to get a 2/3" cam.
 
Nice grabs... but what camera... been busy... first I thought you had the JVC... then the Canon... then I thought I read were you went back to the JVC...

So forgive me if this is a repeat... but camera did you shoot these with...

Thanks.. Gary
 
Thanks Danilo... on my sisters computer and this thing is the slowest thing in the world... almost bought her a new one yesterday at Best Buy... so I can search for things much faster...
 
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