Yes I'm afraid I have another adaptor.

i would love to build one myself, and i bought the pvc parts, but i just havent a single idea what to do about the whole wax screen versus GG or whatever.. What would you recommend, whats the best way to go about this marlene?
 
PaPa said:
i would love to build one myself, and i bought the pvc parts, but i just havent a single idea what to do about the whole wax screen versus GG or whatever.. What would you recommend, whats the best way to go about this marlene?
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Build the adapter and test it out with an inexpensive Asian Macro and an alternative screen, even sandwich bags if you can't find an aol screen. My first try at a wax screen yielded excellent results but it had the slightest of hot spots so I tossed it, subsequent tests haven't been as good but I can still try in my spare time. I even ground my own glass for a screen and although it was fair....I need to improve on it. I used a Nikon Type D and that was pretty good except for the dust problem between the screen and condenser.....I thought I had it clean and sealed the screen....but one little spec remained. Then I was looking at some CD cases in a shelf over my desk at work and noticed the AOL CD case looked a lot like my wax screen, so I cut a piece and tried that.....with pretty nice results.....in fact......it's my favorite so far. My point is that once you build your adapter, and build it so you can replace screens, then the fun really begins. The whole process is actually a lot of fun and probably a lot cheaper than a trip to Disneyland.

Don't think too much about it.........just do it.
 
Nike.


lol

but seriously, where can one get those AOL cd screens. i bought ones from staples, but when i opened it they looked way way way too transparent.

Im here for help, not DIY, lol if only i had the time for DIY but i dont anymore

whats the best screen youve had so far and are the happiest with in terms of DOF, light loss, and grain?

because i want! :)
 
hey i just finished my beattie test, and it looked much brighter than my nikon, i'll post some test friday since i have to return the camera tuesday.

no more distortion, gg was facing wrong way, now i just got to get those dust out
 
http://blip.tv/file/get/Phally-test2102.mov

het guys here is my new test
it was done on an old trv-27 and with the beattie screen.
the beattie is currently my fav.
the vingetting is from me not zooming because the zoom on the camera is real fast and sensitive.

but when i do zoom, everything is bright and looks great
i am using a 18+ tiffen macro
 
phally said:
i am using a 18+ tiffen macro
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:eek:

+18? Is that a single macro? If so that's insane. I can't believe you're not getting more edge distortion. Crazy. Aside from the footage being shaky as !#%$^ it looked pretty good. The first half of the clip was super dark, but the second part looked really bright and clear. Looking good man.

I've been trying to get the 'perfect adapter' going for a while and I'm getting frustrated. But I'm hanging in there for the time being. While there is some great satisfaction out of getting things to work, it often comes after a fair amount of stress. Best of luck to all the DIYers out there. :D

On a sidenote, finding something similar to the AOL CD case has proven difficult. I picked up some TDK DVD's the other day at Circuit City. They come in clear cases that I thought would be similar to the AOL case. Not true. I've found that anything that is transparent enough for you to actually see through and distinguish shapes is too transparent. It needs to be opaque enough that you can't see through it. Anyone found a bulk source for these?
 
Hey thanks ovjamaica:

sorry for the shaking, basically i had a really small one ccd camera to do this test. with the ecw35, the camera was really not taking the weight well.

I know friday, i will get the hvr-z1, be ready for some sweet images. that beattie screen is WOW :)

ohh about the 18 macro, it was one made for 30mm threads that i bought from tiffen because the trv-27 uses 30mm thread, it was hard but for 20 bucks, a 18+ is good for these tests because the trv-27 was one i was going to use to shoot random video or capture anything i need in my car.

p.s.
yes i am getting a tripod in 2 days :)
 
It's not a big deal. I have a TRV-19, so I know how small those cams are. Looking forward to seeing Z1 footage with this. Seems fine so far. Any idea on what you'll be using as a macro for the Z1? 30mm isn't going to cut it. :D But I think you said the Beattie fit into a 62mm filter, so I guess that won't be a problem.
 
Dan, so if you get the proper length you can bypass the macro altogether? Just curious about that. If I understand this correctly, the function of the macro (or achromat) is to make your overall adapter length shorter, right?
 
thanks dan and ovjamaica.

the funny thing is that i have a setup for both the z-1 and my trv-27

I am using the same beattie housing but since the house is step-down to 52mm uv filters, i could it on almost anything

here is what is in my 72mm camera thread setup-

72mm camera thread-> 2x 10+ 72mm macro ->stepdown to 52 reverse macro->52 uv filter-> gg housing->52mm uv filter-> flange adjust screw->50mm nikon lense

this is my test trv-27 setup

30mm 18+ tiffen macro-> 30 to 52mm stepup ring-> 52 empty uv ring->52 uv filter-> gg housing->52mm uv filter-> flange adjust screw->50mm nikon lense

this set-up works great for me because all i have to do is just change some rings and then i can use it on any camera size thread.

my gg housing have the gg with step up and step down ring from 52mm to 62mm for the beattie, this is because i wanted to use more area of the beattie screen,

thanks guys
 
ovjamaica said:
Dan, so if you get the proper length you can bypass the macro altogether? Just curious about that. If I understand this correctly, the function of the macro (or achromat) is to make your overall adapter length shorter, right?
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Yes and not only. Some cameras have macro (DVX100A) some don't (DVX100)
The latter needs an achromatic lens to enable it to focus close. DVX100A could use a bit of help too (not for focus purposes but for vignetting! ! !)
A CU lens while allowing close focus, it also enlarges the screen/GG, so you have to zoom-in less to fill the screen. There are so many variables (camcorder lenses and sizes) that is hard to make a rule, but... still... a CU lens (make that achromatic or you shell suffer the consequences) helps more often than not. One Century +7 (58mm) should be more than enough in most cases. (hey B&H, how about a :beer: for da man who's sending bizniz your way, hey? lol) This older album was shoot without any CU lens (but it was tight)
 
Ok, so if you do use an achromat you don't have to zoom in so far and can also prevent vignetting. But if you could get away with and not use one at all then your chance of chromatic aberration is zero? Just wondering what would be the best setup. I'm going to try this both ways, just gotta get my freaking DVX back from my sister. :( Dan, you're the man.
 
Hey Dan you might know who this,

but Michel Brault is here at my school and just showed his "le monde" film, the one about the whale hunt! very informative and i highly respect him.
well he gave a little talk about film maker being poor was the best thing for him because i allowed him to find ways to slove things.

much like how what we are doing on this board.
just wanted to drop that note.
we are having dinner tonight, me and the other grad students with Michel Brault, and i'll slip in some things about 35mm and video and all the diy stuff going on.

later
 
this is too tehcnical for me to follow. damn. i really want to understand this ****. trying to build my own 35mm adapter an all.
 
marlene.. i am using a sonia +10 that is attatched to the camera.. and then an asian +10 inside the adapter.. both cheapos.. so it might be that which is causing blur... is the only macro your using the co-7?? because even with just one +10 i cant get zoom in far enough to cancell out vingetting..
 
What would it be guys if you would have access on line (web cam) at all optical and otherwise mechanical tests I did (and I can repeat)?
"The 35mm adapter Internet school" (by me)
Would that be entertaining? Or even watch the work involved in making one MPIC from the beginning to the end without falling asleep (I am talking about you not me!)
(and then still tell me is too expensive) ....
I could test live ANY diffuser that comes to mind.
That should put an END to all struggle and wasted money on all collective attempts and we could all move on to more fun stuff, like.... shooting real movies?

Eh... just a thought....
 
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