Breakfast Scene

Bgundu, all the clips you have posted here do show the possibilities of the HVX, it is great to see ´raw´shoots without CC. (just in the middle, there is a little bump in the track). Thank you for posting! Keep on shooting.
 
Yeah, and the one bite taken out of each slice of toast really bugged me too. :-)
Ok, well maybe the toast on the left has two bites taken out of it.

Oh yeah, nice footage! I've downloaded all your clips and show them around to people interested in the HVX200. Usually about all they say is "WoW!"

I didn't even notice the shadow on her forehead, I was busy thinking how much nicer this looks than my old camera.
 
Actually it is the best material I have seen from this cam. ( all your clips together)
 
bgundu said:
For everyone who commented on the bad lighting, you are correct. I remember telling my wife that I'm going to get nailed on this setup. She looked at the clip and couldn't see what I was talking about. In any case, expect an improved clip soon.
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The lighting wasn't "bad" by any means - in fact, the lack of shadows and obvious sources are quite professional looking - it just happens to look particularly flat (a style which doesn't get used much in modern dramatic cinematography). There's absolutely nothing wrong with the shadow on her forehead or under her hair on her shirt at all; it's very soft and quite pleasing in my opinion. I was actually curious as to how it was lit because it looks very natural, but in my experiences the HVX usually demands a lot more light than just "available kitchen light" to get exposure like that. Overall, I think it's one of the better HVX clips on the web. Still way too much dancing noise/artifacts in the midtones for my personal tastes, but I think we've pretty much come to understand that as a limitation of the camera and not anything you can really avoid.
 
One more thing on the "film look." People should remember that film itself is heavily color-corected (usually digitally). Often the difference between the before and after is insance. It's rare now but there was a time when many of the deleted scenes on DVDs would lack color correction (or even decent sound). This was quite an eye-opener for me as I saw many gorgoues films look pretty bland without some CC. Look at the alternate ending for the Mask of Zorro or the alt ending for Die Hard With a Vengence (just two examples off the top of my head).
 
I see a little bit of "noise" in the mid-tones. But it's so mild that you really, really, really have to look for it . . .

And you know what? For my purposes, I'm glad it's there. Because without it, the picture would look much more like super-clean video and less like film. And I want it to look like film.
 
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Why?

I mean, I understand wanting the bueaty of film but why would you want to reproduce stuff from bad film? I havn't shot film for about two years but I remember in my 16mm days all the steps we took to try to reduce grain and get it to be as sharp and clean as possible. I'd rather something look like pretty HD than ugly film.
 
And you can always add grain in post - always best added as a creative choice rather than not having the choice in the first place and just having it.

That said I watched the Hills Have Eyes remake the other day and the noise in that movie is incredible. I suspect they wanted to get that 70's exploitation feel, but they could have just used the HVX and upped the gain :Drogar-BigGrin(DBG)

All that said I really don't mind the noise from the HVX footage. If you light your footage okay it shouldn't be very apparent to the viewer. And the noise in that scene, I'm sure is from Quicktime compression.
 
booth said:
The lighting is flat, but to be honest I'd rather create a flat image and let the colorist crush the blacks in post.
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What I meant by flat was the lighting dosent enhance the 3d illusion. film is a 2d medium so with lighting, staging, dof and other tricks, we need to give the illusion that you could walk right into the frame.:costumed-smiley-047
 
The orange in the bottom left of frame seemed to have some color jitter? Is this from compression? The dolly pan was shaky, hard to dolly and pan yourself :P
 
conrad_johnson said:
What I meant by flat was the lighting dosent enhance the 3d illusion. film is a 2d medium so with lighting, staging, dof and other tricks, we need to give the illusion that you could walk right into the frame.:costumed-smiley-047
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I'd say it's more of a dof issue because you could do a heck of a lot in the grade with that footage - but it'd be hard to change the dof.
 
booth said:
I'd say it's more of a dof issue because you could do a heck of a lot in the grade with that footage - but it'd be hard to change the dof.
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I'm talking about the lighting, not the color correcting. you can't add a kicker or a rim light or a 3/4 backlight in the color grading process.
 
mgundu: it is fantastic clip. I like nice soft lighting and beautiful sharpness. Everything is nice smooth - camera moving, colors, shadows. Very nice.
 
My new favorite thing to do when at home in OC is to watch everyone's footage on HDtv.

This stuff looks good as hell when output through DVI to HDready screen.
 
HOLLY COW! I knew I should have never looked at HD! I'm just now buying a DVX. I just joined this forum and found out about the DVX and creamed my nickers. And now...NOW THIS!!! Oh no!!! It can't be! Always one thing better to tease.
 
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