The perfect HD on camera monitor for the HVX200?

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David_M_Payne

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The perfect HD on camera monitor for the HVX200?

I found this monitor from a tip from Lutnik. He has been using it for SD from what I can gather, and he said it gives him a great picture. Its resolution is about the same as the Marshall V-R70P-HDA, and its $249.00, instead of $1400.00. They also make one that had VGA inputs the 700VY for $349.00, same specs as below. The trick is coming up with a way to hook up this monitor to the HVX200 and get it to receive the HD signal so that it can be used as a camera mounted monitor to focus with. It has a standard screw mount thread in the bottom, but no battery pack (though it does have an ACadaptor and a cig lighter adaptor for power) and no way right now to get the HD signal from the camera to the monitor. Any of you tech heads and/or geeks out there have any ideas/links for how to do this? The price is sure good, the size and weight is perfect, if we can figure out a way to make it work.

David

http://www.xenarc.com/product/700y.html

XENARC 700V™
7" TFT LCD Monitor w/ 2 AV Inputs
This high resolution monitor is perfect for
viewing DVD's with its 7" wide screen 16x9 aspect ratio. Easy access front control and
the included remote control allows for the manipulation of all of the monitor's functions.

This monitor offers 800 x 480 display resolution (2400 x 480 dots) in comparison to the 480 x 234 (1440 x 234 dots) that most other 7-Inch TFT LCD monitors offer. That is 242% more dots! See it yourself for the difference in picture quality.

This monitor comes included with an instruction manual, a monitor stand, a Audio/Video cable, an AC adapter, and a cigarette lighter adaptor.

For In-Car Computing, PC, Server, GPS, and various VGA Use
VGA Input (15 pin D-SUB) x 1 (700Y) or VGA Input x 1 & Video Input x 2 (700YV)
Audio Input / Built-in Speaker (700YV)
NTSC / PAL Multi-System (700YV)
16x9 Aspect Ratio
High Resolution Display - up to 1600 x 1200
Auto detects 800x480 resolution
Upgraded High-Brightness CCFL Backlight
Adjustable backlight level for night-time use
Pixelworks High Performance Image and Video Signal Processor
AISS - Advanced Image-Scaling and Shaping
16:9 / 4:3 Scaler settings *New*
Last Input memory (700YV) *New*
Last Power setting memory *New*
IR Remote Control (700YV) *New*
Auto power-on upon signal detection
Automatic display adjustment
On Screen Display Control
Metallic Silver or Black Casing
Copper Stand: 360° / Height Adjustment
20-Pin heavy-duty connector
Supports 11V DC ~ 24V DC
"E" Mark Certified for Automotive use
Compare Features

Model #: 700Y / 700YV
Screen Size: Diagonal 7" (16:9)
Physical Resolution: 800 (H) x 480 (V) WVGA
Supported Resolution: 640 x 480 ~ 1600 x 1200
Dot Resolution: 2400 x 480 = 1,152,000 (dots)
LCD Panel Brightness*: 400 cd/m²
Display Brightness: 350 cd/m²
Operating Voltage Range: DC 11V ~ 24V, 1A
Power Supply: DC 12V
Power Consumption: <8W
Operating Temperature: 23°F ~ 158°F
Dimension (in): 7.75W x 4.75H x 1.38D
Weight (lb): 1.28
FCC, CE, E13 Certification
18 Month Warranty
Available in Silver or Black
30 days No dead Pixel Guarantee
 
Wrong way though -- that converts from VGA to component, you'd want the other way (converting component to VGA).

This one's closer: http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/9A65.html
but it's only standard-def. Nice that it has pass-thru though; that would let you use it to connect to your on-camera monitor and then send the output over to the big client/director's monitor. If it was high-def, that'd be worth considering.

Here's a cheap one, $60: http://hardware.teamxbox.com/xbox/22/VDZ3-ComponenttoVGA-Transcoder/
 
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Physical Resolution: 800 (H) x 480 (V) WVGA
it a 800x480 display... But then they say Dot Resolution: 2400 x 480 = 1,152,000 (dots)... Very confussing specs.
 
Work "well"? That's the question. Just because there are a certain # of pixels on the screen, that doesn't mean it displays an accurate image! This is something that would need to be researched, and until proven otherwise, I'd be skeptical. I mean, there's going to be a reason that the Marshall is $1300 and this monitor is $350.

Then again, we may get surprised. But I wouldn't buy it sight unseen; I'd wait for someone else to try it out and give a user report.
 
Specs of LCD's are very misleading. Technically the LCD on the HVX is higher res than the original DVX. But it is obvious when side by side the DVX has a far clearer, sharper image than the HVX. Plus the off axis viewing is a big step back.
Yet...Pana claims it is a higher resolution than the old one. It doesn't add up.

Bottom line is you have to see it to believe it. Until you see how clear it is don't just blindly trust the specs.

A good part of the reason for me selling my XL2 and saving for the HVX was I loved the sharp LCD on the DVX and assumed the HVX would bring me the same. I am now finding that I have almost as hard of a time telling focus on the HVX 3.5" screen as I did on the XL2 2" screen. Add to that I used the manual lens on the XL2 and I could nail focus quick and accurate. The saving grace of the DVX for me was always how clear the picture was to get accurate focus. Sad that I find the HVX screen a step backwards. I am comparing both in SD also....where the HVX is a tad better than in HD for sharpness on the LCD.

......enough rambling......blah!
 
icicle22 said:
Specs of LCD's are very misleading. Technically the LCD on the HVX is higher res than the original DVX. But it is obvious when side by side the DVX has a far clearer, sharper image than the HVX.

The saving grace of the DVX for me was always how clear the picture was to get accurate focus. Sad that I find the HVX screen a step backwards.
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I agree that the HVX LCD is useless for focusing, even with the peaking on (which doesn't seem to make much difference, at least not as much as on the 100A). The DVX LCD wasn't great, but sharper than the HVX. The DVX100A's LCD was, to me, the sharpest of the three, especially since they added the peaking control on the A, which made quite a huge positive difference in assisting with focus.

In a film-style shooting environment, where actors have marks and you have proper HD monitors and the ability to measure focal distances, focusing won't be a problem, but for doc/reality shooting, it'll be a real chore trying to maintain accurate focus. The HVX VF is actually sharper than the LCD (opposite of the DVX), though neither helps much in determining focus in a run-and-gun situation. The focus assist is terrific, though you can't keep toggling it on while shooting and hope to keep your eye on your composition.

The one aspect that will help out in terms of on-the-fly focusing is having the focus readout in feet and inches, since even if you can't judge focus, you can guesstimate the distance to your subject and set your focus to that.
 
Barry_Green said:
Work "well"? That's the question. Just because there are a certain # of pixels on the screen, that doesn't mean it displays an accurate image! This is something that would need to be researched, and until proven otherwise, I'd be skeptical. I mean, there's going to be a reason that the Marshall is $1300 and this monitor is $350.

Then again, we may get surprised. But I wouldn't buy it sight unseen; I'd wait for someone else to try it out and give a user report.
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Barry, if you post exactly what I need to know and have to put this together to try out, I'll buy it and let everyone here know how it works. (I have a couple of friends that are pretty good with A/V who will be glad to help out.) It looks like a pretty straight forward set up, camera HD RCA outputs to the VD-Z3 to the VGA input to the monitor, right?

Here is a link to the sales page for it. http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0SO7B3cv...ion=content&task=blogcategory&id=67&Itemid=28

David
 
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That's what I would expect, but then you'll also have to figure out how to get power to the monitor and also to the VGA adapter...
 
Barry_Green said:
That's what I would expect, but then you'll also have to figure out how to get power to the monitor and also to the VGA adapter...
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Boy, you're up late. For the first test I'll just have to plug them in to AC, so it will be a test here at home. If it works we can figure out how to make the setup mobile. Both the monitor and the VD-Z3 use AC transformers and have low power requirements so figuring out mobile power sources shouldn't be that hard, if it works.

David
 
David_M_Payne said:
Boy, you're up late. For the first test I'll just have to plug them in to AC, so it will be a test here at home. If it works we can figure out how to make the setup mobile. Both the monitor and the VD-Z3 use AC transformers and have low power requirements so figuring out mobile power sources shouldn't be that hard, if it works.

David
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I tried to order one of the VD-Z3's but they are out of stock and they have a very poor home page with no way to contact anyone but e-mail, which they haven't answered yet. Also the forum there is full of complaints about the same problems I ran into as far as stock and contacting problems. So I can't order the 700YV monitor untill I know I can get the VD-Z3 to hook it up with. Hopefully the guy(s) who run the VD-Z3 site will get back with me soon. In the meantime anyone else have any links to a product that will do the same thing that the VD-Z3 does?

David
 
Barry_Green said:
Work "well"? That's the question. Just because there are a certain # of pixels on the screen, that doesn't mean it displays an accurate image! This is something that would need to be researched, and until proven otherwise, I'd be skeptical. I mean, there's going to be a reason that the Marshall is $1300 and this monitor is $350.

Then again, we may get surprised. But I wouldn't buy it sight unseen; I'd wait for someone else to try it out and give a user report.
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You're on target. Up until the Panasonic 7" LCD, the TransVideo was the only one worth having. The Panasonic gave me our first usable LCD for under $1K. The rest are impossible to focus with and don't reproduce colors accurately.
 
I have a component to VGA cable that I used used once to connect a dvd player to a projector. I was able to go progressive scan out the component of the dvd player and into the VGA port on the projector. Would that work at all on this monitor? Plugging the component of the HVX into my cable and then into the monitor?
 
JesterJJZ said:
I have a component to VGA cable that I used used once to connect a dvd player to a projector. I was able to go progressive scan out the component of the dvd player and into the VGA port on the projector. Would that work at all on this monitor? Plugging the component of the HVX into my cable and then into the monitor?
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I don't know but where did you get the cable? Make, model, where purchased etc. Also if you have a HVX try it out on a LCD TV/monitor and see if it works. If it does work tell us and we'll try it out.

David
 
David_M_Payne said:
I don't know but where did you get the cable? Make, model, where purchased etc. Also if you have a HVX try it out on a LCD TV/monitor and see if it works. If it does work tell us and we'll try it out.

David
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Hmm...I'll have to try it at a friend's house. All my monitors don't have inputs on them, my crts and Apple displays have the cords permanently attatched. I'll keep you guys posted. I got the cable on ebay a couple years ago. But I know it can carry 480p from a dvd player to a DLP projector with VGA input.
 
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