Which 35mm adapter would you buy?

PaPa said:
im seriously concidering the redrock one as well, seems to have the nicest footage, except they dont havea flip version of it yet do they? hrmph.

and then there is the question of which lens to purchase with it with the right mounts and son on. man, need more time and information. Seems to me it might be best to give this product tiem to evolve.
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GEt Nıkon mounts and lenses. They have smoother apeture settıngs. Canon FD lenses While AWESOME.... have this weird issue with apeture where you have to activate a switch to make the ıris stop down ( great for taking pictures cause then the image through the view finder is bright, press the shutter and it snaps down to F5.6 for example) and none of the mounts activate this switch. you need rubber bands or a piece of wire to pull the switch. ( and who wants wire near their lens?) some, and i stress SOME of the lenses have an auto lock, that you can push by hand that activated this switch, if you can find thoes youre lucky not all models carried it.

i have Canon FD lenses, so i have to cope, but if youre gonna staart a collection from scracth, go with Nikon.

Start with:
50 or 55 mm F1.2/F1.4 prime. 1.2 are harder to come by but give you an extra stop.

28mm medium wide. F2.0 is ususally easy to find and cheap used. anything brighter than that gets expensive. An F 1.4 28mm can run about 100$ but an F2.0 20$ on Ebay

an 80-200 Zoom lense just for the sake of having a medium and long telephoto in one. cheap ones are in the 50$-100$ range. They usually run about
F 3.5 some cheaper lenses can have F5.6 at full open.

NOW: if youre on a budget, you can combine a couple lenses with a 30-100~MM Zoom. they usually are about F2.8 - F3.5 at widest, which BTW will give you shallow DOF. ( the DOF on my 50mm 1.4 lense at wide is about 1 or 2 inches. Even at 6 or 7 feet away youre choosing between the ears and eyes being in focus, trust me F 2.8 will be your friend.... Somehow i still want that 55mm F1.2.... Drool) Also these lenses tend to come with some macro capability.

A super wide like a 16mm or a 20mm is a nice additıon but not neccesary. they also have alot of distortion, and if they don,t have distortion... they cost ALOT.
A 16mm F1.4 that i have my eye on is about 450$.

hope this helps. i am only 22, but ive been shooting photos with my Dads CAnon AE-1P since i was 10. lucky for me my dad was a photo nut and i have 5 lenses. with 2 more on the way.
 
If I recall, the FD mount on the Letus DOES activate that switch you're talking about on the Canon lenses, because their were a couple of times we noticed the iris stopped down when someone accidentally moved it, and we needed to open it back up to the 1.4/wide.
 
REALLY?! thats awesome

maybe i should find out what mount they use and Retofit my SG35. (when i get it)
 
The Letus35 uses a custom machined metal mount that's Canon FD on one end, and Nikon AI on the other (this is an upgrade option, but worth it IMO).
 
x2mag68 said:
GEt Nıkon mounts and lenses. They have smoother apeture settıngs. Canon FD lenses While AWESOME.... have this weird issue with apeture where you have to activate a switch to make the ıris stop down ( great for taking pictures cause then the image through the view finder is bright, press the shutter and it snaps down to F5.6 for example) and none of the mounts activate this switch. you need rubber bands or a piece of wire to pull the switch. ( and who wants wire near their lens?) some, and i stress SOME of the lenses have an auto lock, that you can push by hand that activated this switch, if you can find thoes youre lucky not all models carried it.

i have Canon FD lenses, so i have to cope, but if youre gonna staart a collection from scracth, go with Nikon.

Start with:
50 or 55 mm F1.2/F1.4 prime. 1.2 are harder to come by but give you an extra stop.

28mm medium wide. F2.0 is ususally easy to find and cheap used. anything brighter than that gets expensive. An F 1.4 28mm can run about 100$ but an F2.0 20$ on Ebay

an 80-200 Zoom lense just for the sake of having a medium and long telephoto in one. cheap ones are in the 50$-100$ range. They usually run about
F 3.5 some cheaper lenses can have F5.6 at full open.

NOW: if youre on a budget, you can combine a couple lenses with a 30-100~MM Zoom. they usually are about F2.8 - F3.5 at widest, which BTW will give you shallow DOF. ( the DOF on my 50mm 1.4 lense at wide is about 1 or 2 inches. Even at 6 or 7 feet away youre choosing between the ears and eyes being in focus, trust me F 2.8 will be your friend.... Somehow i still want that 55mm F1.2.... Drool) Also these lenses tend to come with some macro capability.

A super wide like a 16mm or a 20mm is a nice additıon but not neccesary. they also have alot of distortion, and if they don,t have distortion... they cost ALOT.
A 16mm F1.4 that i have my eye on is about 450$.

hope this helps. i am only 22, but ive been shooting photos with my Dads CAnon AE-1P since i was 10. lucky for me my dad was a photo nut and i have 5 lenses. with 2 more on the way.
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Thats awsome advice man.

Lets keep this up for a minute or two cause this could be great information :)

Now, the other concern of mine was because there are so many companies that produce them, and the fact that some have flip, while others don't, that there are cleaning issues, issues here and there. Would it not be better to wait a couple of months and maximum a year, actually god no not a year, but to wait and see what comes out of this evolution of adapters?

Also, which type of lens attachment would alow longer depths of field? Many of the videos i see today have far too short a depth of field and feels more like a music video or some other artistic genre of film. But modern day film use a variety, some really short, but some pretty long too. What 'mm' lens does what?

I am eagerly awaiting purchasing one because i have seen footage with these adapters, especially the redrock one. However with that one, the image is not flipped, correct? It is horizontally and vertically flipped so all backwards when capturing? This can't be too convienient for shooters.

Keep comments coming man, i would love to finish my queries about these adapters once and for all.
 
PaPa said:
Thats awsome advice man.

Lets keep this up for a minute or two cause this could be great information :)

Now, the other concern of mine was because there are so many companies that produce them, and the fact that some have flip, while others don't, that there are cleaning issues, issues here and there. Would it not be better to wait a couple of months and maximum a year, actually god no not a year, but to wait and see what comes out of this evolution of adapters?

Also, which type of lens attachment would alow longer depths of field? Many of the videos i see today have far too short a depth of field and feels more like a music video or some other artistic genre of film. But modern day film use a variety, some really short, but some pretty long too. What 'mm' lens does what?

I am eagerly awaiting purchasing one because i have seen footage with these adapters, especially the redrock one. However with that one, the image is not flipped, correct? It is horizontally and vertically flipped so all backwards when capturing? This can't be too convienient for shooters.

Keep comments coming man, i would love to finish my queries about these adapters once and for all.
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WEll the wider lenses tend to be Deeper DOF. like the 16mm 28mm up till about 38mm. then they reach a more neutral looking image, this is where the DOF tends to get shallower, and more noticable. And of course long lenses, like 85mm + are longer lenses, and will give you an even shallower. now theres lots of factors. Look at the Cinematorgraphy thread and read Barry greens DOF tutorial.

that will give you lots of info.


AS for the flip, my opionion is , the less glass the light had to go through thebeetter. it leadsto more oppertunities for distorion, rez loss,and chroma abbrasion.

just flip the imagei n post, and get a magnet for the LCD screen, or get a External LCDscreen.

i still say wait before you buy, at least until the Comparison comes out. i bought mine just cause i really want the capability now.
 
so is it wise to say let it evolve a bit? WAit till everyones got their flips and shiznick?
 
I think, like anything, there will ALWAYS be improvements & upgrades ... so it's not as if there's a certain date you can wait for when all the manufacturers have hit their apex and will stop improving.

Yes, the more zoom the shallower DOF, and typically the much greater cost as well, if you want to keep it a fast lens (i.e. 1.4 apeture).

Personally, I don't believe that flipping the image via prism/mirrors in the unit would cause any MORE resolution loss than you'll get when having to flip the image in post. ANY time you rework your image in post by flipping, adding CC, FX, etc. there is potential for loss in varying degrees.
 
Envision said:
Personally, I don't believe that flipping the image via prism/mirrors in the unit would cause any MORE resolution loss than you'll get when having to flip the image in post. ANY time you rework your image in post by flipping, adding CC, FX, etc. there is potential for loss in varying degrees.
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There had better be some nice optics in that flipping mechanism cause turning an image upside down is delicate. if the mirrors or diopeters are just a tiny fraction off, the whole thing goes to Crap. then theres additional loss of light.

I cant understand why a person woudl spend money to furhter degrade the image. (no offense to anyone who boughta LEtus flip) But flipping the digital image in post is FAR less degrading ot the image then forcing pre focused light through a series of mirrios and such.

Bite the bullet and get an exernal LCD monitor.
 
or you can always use a laptop with dvrack. which i believe is able to flip images and what not, and bunch of other goodies....can't wait till I get my core duo laptop. :)
 
so what are the alternatives to flipping the image while shooting?

i hear this magnet trick works, but only flips it one way, then there is the LCD monitor that you can mount on. Does this run on the cameras battery? What other options are there?
 
I Think Maybe Film School Or A Book On Lenses, Or No, Wait...field Practice Might Be The Answer To "what Adapter Gives The Best Depth Of Field?"

Arrrgh...ponderous
 
Ahhh.....experience......there's an idea. But the nice thing about this forum is that one can learn so much from someone elses experience, especially when it comes to buying or building equipment. What you do with information, gained through experience or schooling, is what makes the difference. Either way the questions will be asked.

Marlene
 
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