Indian-made follow focus...any opinions?

Kenny

While I appreciate your existential points, there is a clear difference between your commentary on social injustice and the direct purposeful stealing of products. By your justification it's okay for anyone to copy software and distribute it illegally, or more poignantly, it's okay to copy movies and distribute illegally. Are you okay with that as well?

I can assure you we are not CEOs earning tons of money. We all took significant pay cuts to start a company that produces products that are far more affordable than what was previously available.

If the Indian company wants to come up with their own designs, that's fine. But they aren't, and it hurts everyone including you. Stealing is not "outsmarting", it's stealing. You can't spin it any other way.



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If I can pay for it I will pay for it, but if I can't I will copy it.
Look for instance at Microsoft. They are dominating the OS world with windows. They can ask you to pay any amount if you really want it.
In a country where the average salary is 200 US$ a month, you must be crazy to buy it if you can copy it. Make a product payable and most people will pay for it. Create a need for a product and put a relative high price on it and most people will copy it if they can. I live in Suriname and luckily we don't have problems with copyrights. We copy what we can copy and we buy what we can buy.
Look at the story of Bill gates. Didn't he outsmart his partners "legally".

At the end of the seventies (1979/1980) I was living in Holland and I developed a system for a Dai-computer that I called Ken-Dos. By the time I sold enough systems someone in France copy my system and was selling it.
I didn't care, because for the time I invested in the system and the money I got out of it, it was paid in full, so what the hack if someone copy it.
I didn't care because the knowledge I have is also copied. Everything you know is a copy from someone else and we are just adding knowledge to knowledge to create more knowledge. So part of what we create is society property, because we used knowledge of society to create it.
You should in fact only be paid for your labor and your materials to a certain amount.
Getting the appreciation from the users (buyers) is also valuable.

So to be realistic:
Make a good product, charge a reasonable price and you may get rich, but don’t overplay your value, or someone will outsmart you like Bill Gates did.

35mm adapters from your company are good, but not very good imo. Letus is better in picture quality but not so good from a price and mechanical point of view. Probably the Ultimate is mechanically also good, but way to high priced. Now there is the new SGBlade Pro. Very good product, just as reasonable priced as your product, but with a better overall picture quality except for the Sony EX(1,3). I think they need to add an optimizer for the Sonies. Mechanically it has to prove itself yet.
I mean there may be an issue with the spinning disk over time. Time will tell. For now, I think it is the best product on the market if you look at the quality of the packing, the picture it produces and the price.

The Letus relay lens is also a good product, but IMO should have a price tag of around 1000US$.
From a price point of view, look what happened to the price of the Nikon adapter for the EX3.
One guy is accusing the other of “stealing”??????????? Same goes for Letus and SGBlade pro.
Letus is saying that their “ idea “ is in the SGBlade Pro. Did SGBlade outsmarted Letus??????????
 
Kenny_G I typed a response to you, but poo poo it, I had to delete it. There's no point in arguing with someone that has no idea what they hell they're talking about.

You actually believe that Microsoft is asking people to pay whatever they can for windows? And your break down of the adapters is clearly based on random readings and not actually using the products. You should try being informed before you decide to inform people.
 
Kenny_G I typed a response to you, but poo poo it, I had to delete it. There's no point in arguing with someone that has no idea what they hell they're talking about.

You actually believe that Microsoft is asking people to pay whatever they can for windows? And your break down of the adapters is clearly based on random readings and not actually using the products. You should try being informed before you decide to inform people.


Perhaps you misunderstand me. Microsoft is a giant and dominates and the OS world for year and will for many to come probably.
So now and then you can see some government sues MS, but IMO they don't care. They can do whatever they want and if you don't see that, I am sorry, but then you are a stranger in Jerusalem.

To have an opinion on some product doesn’t mean that you have to use the product.
One can analyze data and come to a conclusion. If you are a man of trial and error you won’t understand or you refuse to understand. What I am saying is my opinion and nothing else.
 
Enough MS flame wars, and back on topic:

I bought a jib from the Indian Ebay store "Digital Video Product"

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cine-Movie-Came...Z3319QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

I believe it's an original design (correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't seen this one before)

Here are my thoughts:

Shipping was almost half the cost of the jib.

The metal parts are solid and well built, but the plastic parts are for crap. It came with a "fluid head" that broke in half when I tightened it down! I did have to make some adjustments on the metal parts. Some of the holes for the fluid head were misaligned and I had to redrill new ones, and some of the metal parts had to be sanded down to fit in the socket. I expected that, I did not expect the plastic to shatter so easily, and I also did not expect the metal parts to be so solid. So a mixture of good and bad. Worth the money, but know what to expect.

Would I buy an Indian follow focus? Not when the Inidfocus is in the same price range!

-J
 
I have some experience buying things like this & almost all of them I bought full well knowing I'd have to replace bolts & nuts right away. they have good matte box designs but cheap out on the hardware they use to put it together. If your ok with that then do that but the follow Focus, Im not sure I'd risk that. If your looking for a cheap alternative, buy from Indifocus. they have a new FF coming out & he is claiming he would put it up against any huge name producers. They've changed allot & are a small company that seems to be very passionate about their products. I'm interested in seeing what changes they've made.
 
I also have a shoulder rig from them works great. I should be getting a dolly next and gonna try that out. Or their wheels at least. Might make my own support.
 
I also have a shoulder rig from them works great. I should be getting a dolly next and gonna try that out. Or their wheels at least. Might make my own support.

Where did you see their dolly? I only found wheels...
So far I have their Proaim7000 Reverse Arm, Dual FollowFocus, Shoulder mount, LCD monitor holder arm and Wide Mattebox (which is 2 times better build quality than cinevate, which I still have)
They are easy to deal with, always respond within one working day, gave me big discounts after my second purchase, products are excellent quality, never had any problems... Hope to see more great stuff from them... Only their 35mm adapter look like crap, but I only saw it on pictures...
 
Can you point me to that LCD monitor holder arm?

Not sure it's still available. You can read zacuto's post here with the following line being the most directly relevant:

" I contacted this Indian company and informed them of our situations with Patents and they promised me that they would cease producing or selling their Magic Arm and other stolen Zacuto designed products. They are ripping off our designs and do not have permission to make these products."
 
http://dvcity.com/dve/product_info.php?products_id=225

magic-arm-10.jpg
 
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just sold my indian FF which was ok for the price. Every time I used a real FF I knew I'd have to upgrade. Lots of play, very lightweight (not in a good way) and very plastic. So I just got the new redrock FF today and man is it a deal for what you get. It is an awesome upgrade for me and for redrock from their old version.
 
Could you post some impressions and pics in another thread about the new rr ff? I've to see it for real.
 
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