Forget 16:9 - new 2.35:1 TV

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Phillips got a new 2.35:1 (Cinemascope) 56inch TV now.
Resolution is 2560 × 1080.

They call it 21:9 - oh well....:huh:

But otherwise, exactly what I was waiting for - exept I would prefer it to be a CRT.

http://www.cinematicviewingexperience.com/

Frank
 

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Nah, but I´m so fed up with LCDs I relly hate them.

I got a friggin expensive Sony MEU WX2 Monitor engine
- wich they praise on the Sony website as "the latest X-Algorithm and ChromaTRU technology delivering outstanding picture performance" and the propper "production reference" LCD monitor (LMD 212) that comes with it.

Having it side by side - the same footage - with my Sony GDM FW900 CRT, the LCD is a sad joke, especialy for the money.

I realy wonder why they did not make it 1920. On that Phillips now EVERYTHING will be pumped thru a scaler.



Frank
 
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I've owned just about everything at one time or another. Including HD CRT Front projectors. They are pretty awesome but require constant care. Can't touch the sharpness of some of the new panel units though.
Still, they crush everything else in absolute black level. Although some new units are coming close.

The new 1080p Aquos TV's are quite nice.

MAH
 
Frank, you will be much happier with the new LED backlit technology that's coming. I'd love a scope AR TV, but I see a lossy, scaling nightmare. We're just getting BD to make a showing in the market. Unless they can somehow make BD and ONDemand (HDOD) support full resolution, anamorphic playback of 2.40 recorded material to the scope monitor, I don't understand how current formats would take advantage of this device? The world has only just become convinced that 1.78:1 (16:9) is the new acquisition and distribution ratio for broadcast and consumer video.

Now, we have plenty of television and features that could shoot scope (not really scope, but 2.40 anyway) - tons of TV is acquired in 3-perf for instance. But none of the legacy television is framed "safe" for scope AR. I've already got every old Academy / 4:3 flavor picture stretching or zooming and compromised on my "widescreen" TV.

What could the scope format possibly do to improve the situation?

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@ Eric

Till I see something that satisfies my needs regarding color grading I work on calibrated CRT.

And than there is still the problem with interleced material.
Not one of those plasma/LCD screens can show interlaced, they all have to deinterlace and thereby, (depending of the quality of the chip) dump more or less, half of the resolution.

If you haven´t seen (interlaced and uncompressed) HD on one of those $ 50000 Sony HD CRTs, you haven´t seen HD at all.

It knocked me off my socks, when I saw it the first time.

....and kicked me out of the market for any LCD/Plasma panels.

When the brodcasters start broadcasting in progressive and when there are panels that are able to show at least 10 bit, I´m coming back.

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My LCD HDTV handles pans better in progressive 720 than interlaced HD. I don't get it, but I'm not an engineer.

I was a Hughes-JVC cetified CRT and D-ILA installer, so I know a little bit about the highest-end CRT projectors. Yeah, they look incredible, but they're a dying technology.

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Dumbest idea ever. Are they forgetting about everything that is shot at the (IMO superior) 1.85:1 aspect ratio?

Maybe a 2.39:1 TV will catch on in 15 years or so, when they are looking for the next big thing, but this is just gonna end up being a toy for the super wealthy.

And 21:9 isn't even fully 2.35:1, let alone the 2.39:1 aspect ratio of modern anamorphic films. It's 2.3333333...
 
Just when you thought you were done with the black bars...

Just when you thought you were done with the black bars...

...on the sides - some genius brings 'em right back.
 
I hope others follow Phillips on this. I have never been a fan of Phillips LCDs but would love a 2.35:1 screen.
 
I loves me a 2.35 ratio (my latest film is masked 2.40 off a HPX500), but let's be practical here...

16:9 is a good ratio that covers the gamut from old films and SDTV, to cinemascope films. I mean, unless they want to start broadcasting the local news in 2.35:1, I don't see this ever becoming a standard the way that 16:9 is becoming.
 
The Noble Robot said:
16:9 is a good ratio that covers the gamut from old films and SDTV, to cinemascope films. I mean, unless they want to start broadcasting the local news in 2.35:1, I don't see this ever becoming a standard the way that 16:9 is becoming.
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Well, it doesn´t have to be the new standard. Never underestimate the niche market.

Personally I use my screen 80% of the time for Blu-ray movies and as monitor for editing and color grading. This is perfect for me!
 
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