Run your car on water

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Yes but they are claiming 30% to 70% fuel efficiency and some as much as 400% fuel efficiency. If you look at the videos, on you tube its pretty unreal. Why isn't everyone doing this? I know the physics are sound, we did this kind of experiment back in school. But is it possible you could actually slash your fuel costs by maybe 50% no one is doing it (the general public). Sounds to good to be true. I am almost intrigued to build one of those but i don't even have a car.
 
HVX2006 said:
Why isn't everyone doing this? I know the physics are sound, we did this kind of experiment back in school.
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Simple, what you lose in fuel cost you gain in battery cost. You have to buy batteries a lot more often because what's happening is your battery is being used to change water into hydrogen to run the car.

-Nate
 
I wouldn't trust anything Water4Gas says simply because their methods of selling their product are similar to those used by spam and scams. They post their own reviews of the product, using various domain names, and try to hide their own identity.

From the Consumer Affairs website:

Doing a Web search for "water4gas" or "Ozzie Freedom" brings up page after page of search results and advertisements with headlines such as, "Is Water4Gas a Scam?" or "Water4Gas Reviewed," not to mention a wealth of videos that claim to show the device in action.
It doesn't take long to realize that the "articles" and "reviews" appear to be sales pitches masquerading as unbiased reviews. Some sites present themselves as mechanics giving free advice to motorists.
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You might be able to increase your mpg by a mile or two, but not 50% and definitely NOT 400%. They're making a quick buck. That's all. If it was a legitimate operation they could have easily found investors and had respectable establishments (auto magazines, Ralph Nader, etc.) review the product and done proper advertising. Not to mention provide an actual product/kit instead of having you build it yourself (which gives them the ability to say, "You didn't build it write." so you can't sue them.)

Scam.
 
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Nathyn said:
Simple, what you lose in fuel cost you gain in battery cost. You have to buy batteries a lot more often because what's happening is your battery is being used to change water into hydrogen to run the car.

-Nate
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No you wouldn't, the battery is only used initially to start a car, otherwise your headlights would run it down, this device is using the motors electric generator.
 
PK Gillock said:
I wouldn't trust anything Water4Gas says simply because their methods of selling their product are similar to those used by spam and scams. They post their own reviews of the product, using various domain names, and try to hide their own identity.

From the Consumer Affairs website:


You might be able to increase your mpg by a mile or two, but not 50% and definitely NOT 400%. They're making a quick buck. That's all. If it was a legit operation they could have easily found investors and advertised on TV and in the New York Times. Then their product would have sold like hot cakes.

Scam.
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Hey i am all with you, but it isn't just so because you or anyone else says so, i found it so absurd that i vent to try to find a debunk, but i didn't find a single one, also there got to be whole lot of people involved if this is a scam (look at all the videos). Yet somehow it makes sense sort of. Hoping some of the DIY's can look in to it.
 
If you know how to build your own then do it. But please do not give those people any money. It is obvious they are trying to mislead consumers and feed off everyone's desperation for better mpg.

Read this article I posted earlier, from a trusted source.

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2008/07/water4gas.html

The founder of Water4gas has done similar scams like this in the past. He just mixes a little bit of truth with a lot of lies.

"All of these device/schemes seem to promote adding hydrogen to improve the combustion process. There is no way it can improve fuel economy by 50%, or even 5%," said Dr. Robert Sawyer, Professor of Energy Emeritus at the University of California, Berkeley .
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"It shows the desperation people feel!" said Frank, Professor of Mechanical and Aeronautical Engineering at the University of California, Davis.
"This has been around for years, but it didn't work back then and it won't work now," Dr. Frank said. "It's such a very small amount of hydrogen-oxygen gas that it is impossible to have any real effect on combustion."
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I downloaded the book/instructions of one of the torrent sites, it looks pretty easy, don't have a car though, but would love to know if this works. Imagine IFF it works, that would be just plain crazy, especially with gas prices this high. No tec guru here that knows his ****?
 
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