No one here is too far from making a Hollywood film

Nathyn I offically dub thee "Defender of Ground Glass and all things Robert Rodriguez"

I love your passion bro! And trust me passion is way more important the selective focus, so I'm sure I'm gonna enjoy what you make.

Now outside of passion here is my personal priority list for filmmaking:
1) Script
2) Casting
3) Performance
4) Direction
5) Location
6) Set Design
7) Audio
8) Lighting
9) Framing/Composition
10) Color Correction
11) Selective Focus

I actually gave this quite a bit of thought but I'm fairly inexperienced compared to a lot of you guys and I would love to hear how you guys prioritize things, of course there's a ton of other things to consider and obviously a ton of opinions, so let em rip!
 
I beleive this is a studio executive's priority list:

1) Will Smith
2) A DC or Marvel property
3) JK Rowling
4) CGI
5) A 70's or 80's film that can be remade or sequalized.
6) The latest anal leakage from Judd Apatow
7) Jim Carrey being wacky
8) Will Ferrell in a sports themed comedy
9) The director of that last great Superbowl ad.
 
Sorry for the long post.

Most of all movies I've seen have been 'Hollywood movies'.

That aside, I've seen a number of foreign movies that are not hollywood.
Not blockbusters and the artists probably lost money trying to say something,
but...isn't that what art is?

I'm saying, sometimes you have to agree that no one is going to make any money off of somethng, but, the story is just good. So you feel complelled to do it. Not for money or exposure, because you want to tell a story.

Canadians take pride in that, I think, as do most foreign countires. Germany, Italy, France, Japan. They suck box office wise but, there is a pride there.
And many are worth more than box office. It's cultural art to me, maybe not you.

I have a few hundred hollywood dvd's and they are suckin these days, entertainment wise, maybe because I'm getting jaded or burnt out. They are all formatted.

Sometimes, "Sometimes", watching a bad russian movie or Italian movie or Japanese or Canadian movie gives me an insight into that culture, or at least a part of it. Kind of to balance out the Hollywood BS in a sense.

Please don't quote me solely to rip up my comments out of context, it's just my non-specific overview on things.

I'm just chatting. :beer:
 
Raptor365 said:
I'm saying, sometimes you have to agree that no one is going to make any money off of somethng, but, the story is just good. So you feel complelled to do it. Not for money or exposure, because you want to tell a story.
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Most people who watch my stuff love the stories. No one has ever said I was the best director, actor or editor but many people like the stories.
Raptor365 said:
Sometimes, "Sometimes", watching a bad russian movie or Italian movie or Japanese or Canadian movie gives me an insight into that culture, or at least a part of it. Kind of to balance out the Hollywood BS in a sense.
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DITTO. Before Cruise did "Vanilla Sky" there was "Abre Los Ojos" and many say it was a better film. I like both and had see "Abre Los Ojos" so I could appreciate Vanilla Sky. (Not to say it was a "bad" movie). And what about "Audition" slow moving but very creepy Japanese Horror film. Let's not forget Tom Tykwer's "Heaven". (Although that was shot for 11,000,000).
adkimery said:
and how many Star Wars fans w/a computer and a video camera can make an original work of theirs as iconic as the films they are mimicking?
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Probably not many, but they can make lightsabers all day. LOL.
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EDIT: over at ProLost is an appropriate blog entry for this thread, IMO.
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Yea, I actually saw this film on here. There's a link to it in one of the threads. I sent it to a friend to show what the HV20 could really do. Very good stuff. And believe me, I do have gear lust, but those who know me on this thread, know it's never stopped me from shooting. As a matter of fact in my book I take a shoot on whatever you can approach. We started shooting on a Panasonic PVDV100 (which later became the deck for the DVX100). But again to me I could easily watch something like this is a theater. I see no difference between this and a Hollywood film. It looks good, is paced well, etc.

-Nate
 
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Johnny Cola said:
Nathyn I offically dub thee "Defender of Ground Glass and all things Robert Rodriguez"

I love your passion bro! And trust me passion is way more important the selective focus, so I'm sure I'm gonna enjoy what you make.

Now outside of passion here is my personal priority list for filmmaking:
1) Script
2) Casting
3) Performance
4) Direction
5) Location
6) Set Design
7) Audio
8) Lighting
9) Framing/Composition
10) Color Correction
11) Selective Focus

I actually gave this quite a bit of thought but I'm fairly inexperienced compared to a lot of you guys and I would love to hear how you guys prioritize things, of course there's a ton of other things to consider and obviously a ton of opinions, so let em rip!
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In my list, performance and direction are one and the same, and they come right before audio. Audio is more critical than location, set design, etc.
 
Nathyn said:
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DITTO. Before Cruise did "Vanilla Sky" there was "Abre Los Ojos" and many say it was a better film. I like both and had see "Abre Los Ojos" so I could appreciate Vanilla Sky. (Not to say it was a "bad" movie). And what about "Audition" slow moving but very creepy Japanese Horror film. Let's not forget Tom Tykwer's "Heaven". (Although that was shot for 11,000,000).
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-Nate
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Strange, but I have not seen those.
I'll try and track them down but if you have copies...PM?
-Thanks.
 
seunosewa said:
In my list, performance and direction are one and the same, and they come right before audio. Audio is more critical than location, set design, etc.
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But you can't get good audio if you haven't checked out your location. Each location will have it's own set of possible audio problems. We got lucky shooting in a college during the summer and generally quiet locations with no really outside noise. Also we had that Azden shotgun mic which kicks butt.

Raptor365 said:
Strange, but I have not seen those.
I'll try and track them down but if you have copies...PM?
-Thanks.
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I saw "Abre Los Ojos" on IFC several years ago. "Heaven" was in heavy rotation on cable a few weeks ago and "Audition" I saw on IFC during a horror film thing they were doing for Halloween. All of these can be rented from Netflix:

http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Audition/60026319
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Open_Your_Eyes/60021729 (yes, Penelope Cruz was in the original too)
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Heaven/60024971?lnkctr=srchrd-sr&strkid=2029418742_0_0

-Nate
 
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