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I've gotten several requests for a status update on various projects and existing products so here goes. The projects fall into the 3 categories of LED, fluorescent and metal halide.

Lets start with LEDs.

As you may have seen on this thread:

http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=129091

We are working on an V2 of an LED project I started last fall. The first panel was disappointing in LED CRI and had some heat issues. I recommissioned another panel recently and I showed that today but will repost here:

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I showed other pictures of it on the LED thread. The current issue is the LEDs are not a good color temperature for our use so we need to get another LED thats more suitable. The power draw is not bad though and is 25w at 12v. Some good suggestions have come out of the design thread including a single and double panel version that folds up like a book into a form easy for carrying around like an attache case.

Next steps are change out the LEDs, firm up the fixture housing we'll use for the single and double models, finish up yoke/angle positioning methods for the fixture, and packaging. We have planned on a pre-order price of $200 and a final price of $300 for the single version. Pricing to be determined on the double version.


FLUORESCENT

On the fluorescent front, the CL-655 studio (metal) model will be back better than ever with a radio remote controlled dimmable version (due to a lot of demand for a remote dim option). We finally found a dimmable ballast and remote control package that I like a lot and is very stable. I like the radio aspect over infrared for not being directional and I think you will too.

The "CL-655RD" as it will be called, will look pretty much like the normal CL-655 non-dimmable, but will include a digital pot for manual setting of the dimming on the fixture itself as well as a radio remote which includes all the appropriate controls for controlling banks (3 tubes at a time) and dimming. Here's a picture of our new ballast set and included remote and manual dim digital pot for the 655:

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This is a double set of 3x55 dimmable ballasts and we also have a 2x55 dimmable ballast and remote available for our other models but are not ready to include yet. The other dimmable models will continue to use the current dimmable ballast with just the manual control pot on the fixture itself. So, we'll start out with our CL-655RD (remote dimmable) model first and later may use this ballast in all the dimmable models including on our portable series so that they are all radio controlled + manual dim. I think this technology makes more sense for our market than DMX which I see as having its best use in a large scale studio environment with lots of fixtures involved.


METAL HALIDE / HMI

As I've said before our metal halide fixtures will separate into two types: CDM and HMI. The main difference being that the CDM line uses commercial grade cold start bulbs (with longer life than HMI) and ballasts. Our CL-MF0150 CDM 150 fresnel was the first in the CDM line. The 575w HMI fresnel thats under beta test right now is in the first in the HMI line. Our next HMI that I've been working on is an HMI 1200w fresnel. We are only producing 4 units right now: 2 cold start and 2 hot restart (using the 575/1200w "pro" ballast and ignitor). 3 of the models are already pre-sold, only 1 hot start unit left for some lucky person. The cold start models went for $1399 and the hot start for $1999. These were intro prices and the final ones will be a bit higher. We could only produce 4 models right now because of lack of parts for bigger production but we are working on that situation as well as the parts for our 575w too.

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This model uses a more robust yoke than our 575w test units have. Guaranteed to lock in place! You can see the special clamp we have on the side where the locking handle is. We'll use this on our final 575w models when they come out later this year or next year.

The bottom of the 1200's yoke has a junior male pin (1 1/8" or 28mm in diameter) so you need a pretty good stand to hold this fresnel. Its about the same size and specs as an Arri 1200w compact HMI fresnel.

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Its even got our signature handle on the back as well as our 4 pin ballast to head connector. The ignitors are different in the hot and cold models so you cannot interchange the heads and they are a matched set.

Continuing on with the HMI line, we're also working on finishing up our 1200w HMI Par thats been pictured on the site for a while. We'll be adding a few of these to inventory soon so they'll finally be available.

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The situation that was holding us up on this has "unblocked" thanks to another DVXUser that suggested a solution. We were trying to engineer a less costly snap in lens set for this model than the "imported" german glass one we had available.

http://www.lightsactionco.com/

Apparently this company has reasonably priced lens set for many fixtures including the Arri 1200w par. Since our model is compatible with the Arri, the lens sets should work with this model too. This will be a good solution until we can have more time to work on our own. The typical lens set you'd want for a par like this would be a wide, narrow and diffused beam set of 3.

This par also uses the 575/1200w pro ballast and the production units will have hot restart capability using the G38 model 1200w HMI Osram type bulbs. The final customer price of this unit will be $3199 and includes the head, ballast, and 5m cable. Lens set or bulbs to be sourced elsewhere by customers as we won't provide those (for now).


METAL HALIDE / CDM

As this is being written our next batch of CL-MF0150 fresnels has just been packed and is ready to be shipped to the USA. They would already be on their way but I delayed the shipment so the 1200w pars and 1200w fresnels can catch a ride (so-to-speak) in the same shipment.

Continuing on in the CDM line, the next logical units will be a 250w and 400w fresnel. What's been holding us up is finding the suitable 250w and 400w CDM bulbs that are in the 5600K range and CRI of 85 or higher has been my goal. The color temperature and CRI have made it extremely hard to find. These higher wattage commercial type bulbs are typically CRI 65 and color temperature of 4200K or 3000K. We will find the bulb, its just a matter of time. We'll use the 1000w tungsten model for the 250w CDM fresnel. I have found a company that has a 3000K bulb of 85 CRI and our fallback plan may be to just offer the 3000K bulb in the short term. After all, how are you worse off with this? You've got a fresnel that draws 250w but puts out the equivalent "hard" light of a 1000w fresnel. Still good stuff and well worth it to get a cool light output version of a 1000w fresnel.

I have also been looking at a 35w Xenon bulb/ballast combo for use in a small pepper fresnel. 35w would be enough to give the equivalent of a 150w tungsten fresnel but super cool (but bright) technology like that used in many HID flashlights. I think this would be a super popular product and well appreciated for another option to keep your kit a total "cool light" kit.


CARRYING CASES

The carrying cases are finally in for all those that have been asking about them. Cordura nylon exteriors on all of them and hard inner shell as well as padding and velour lining. Reconfigurable velcro separators make the number of different case configurations numerous. The three primary models are the CL-CCL1 (mostly for the portable fluorescent models), CL-CCL2 (mostly for fresnel type instruments) and the CL-CCL3 (mostly for larger tungsten instruments and some flo carrying use as well).

Thats about it for now. We'll keep you posted on status as we can. Thanks for all your support we do appreciate it and are working hard to continue providing the things you're really wanting.
 
I'm the buyer of the 2 cold strike 1200's so I will let you all know how they work when the arrive. Really looking forward to these lights--especially when using them with my RED!

Matthew
 
Those 150's are really just killer. I have to admit that I actually dropped one out of the back of the truck WITH a bulb in it and was scared that it was toast.

That sucker fired right up. I really love the price-to-performance ratio on these, and am lookin' forward to the sub 575w units.

Speakin' of Coollights and RED ONE: Coolights and RED ONE

There's a tiny lil test with the RED ONE and some 150w HMI love bein' bounced off of a gold reflector. Delightful.
 
Macville, how them 1200s treating you?

Richard, whats the word on the 250w CDMs? I LOVE the 150s, a 250w would be really great to have.

Also how goes the LED panel? I'd especially like to see something like the LedZ Brute 9 (http://www.led-z.com/brute.html). Or, a good quality version of the Flolight one for less than their price, maybe even a smaller version.
 
The bulb has been the main holdup. We always hold out for the best bulb and it can take a while as we have to "audition" many before we get the right one. Same with our LED panel. We are going through an exhaustive search of LEDs now until we get the best one for us. Our 70w CDM fresnel is really challenging as well because we have to find a "shorty" G12 socket since there are really difficult constraints in size on that model.
 
So once you find a 250w/300w CDM bulb then that unit will be quick to come out?

On the 150s, I wanted to mention I LOVE that handle, extremely handy to point around. On the header cable connectors I am slightly nervous. One is loose and I started trying to screw it back on, after a few revolutions it seemed to occur to me that maybe its not a screw on and that I was torquing it! Of every part on the unit, I wish that was beefier, I hope you have some spares that I can order after I destroy mine.
 
I think you need to deliberately limit the number of models you offer. Instead of having 50 models out of which only 10 random ones are available at any given time, you would have 10 models that we can count on you to have in stock at any time. A
 
So once you find a 250w/300w CDM bulb then that unit will be quick to come out?

On the 150s, I wanted to mention I LOVE that handle, extremely handy to point around. On the header cable connectors I am slightly nervous. One is loose and I started trying to screw it back on, after a few revolutions it seemed to occur to me that maybe its not a screw on and that I was torquing it! Of every part on the unit, I wish that was beefier, I hope you have some spares that I can order after I destroy mine.

The connector pushes onto the ballast and then there is a screw cap that secures it. I'm not sure what you were seeing there.
 
are you going to make any small dimmable LED panels? Like for accent ligts, on camera lights, and what not. They're very versatile items and if priced right would probably sell like hot cakes.
 
I would love to, first things first though. We're still working on our 600 LED model and hope to have that out by the fall. But you're certainly right. Before I was fairly negative on LEDs but as I've been experimenting with them I see much greater possibilities. Will they replace HMI, fluorescent, etc.? No, not for along time. For instance, you can't beat tungsten or metal halide for projection and cookies. LEDs probably won't do that well until we can get a single source super high wattage LED point source. The shadow patterns and definition with LEDs just isn't as great.

But they do have their unique and special place in the kit and are indispensable in certain situations--like in a car at night. Or doing an interview while walking along on a street. Or shooting in a cave. All those places have something in common--you really want something small and that can operate off a battery and LEDs would be great for that.

There's also no other source that excels at shining a concentrated beam out of it than an LED because of the way their are "lensed" so to speak. I didn't realize that until I really got into the experimentation with them.
 
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I'm the buyer of the 2 cold strike 1200's so I will let you all know how they work when the arrive. Really looking forward to these lights--especially when using them with my RED!

Matthew

Any news on the units Matthew? How are they performing etc etc etc...
 
For the most part they are working well. The only two issues I've had with them is one, they are truly cold strike. If the HMI has been been on for more than 20-30 minutes it takes at least 8 minutes before you can restrike it. My understanding was it was going to be around 4-5 minutes--which is fine. 8-12 minutes is a little too long. If you accidently trip the light/unplug it/or just need to move it, it can slow a production down.

The second issue is that the wire cover on the header cable (I don't know exactly what to call it, it's the insulation that covers all the insulated wires) has popped out of the connector. I've put gaffe tape over it to help it, but it would be nice to see better/nicer connectors on the HMI and cable.

Other than that, they are good. A lot of light output for very little power. But they are not good to rent by themselves because people expect the Arri name and quality.
Matthew
 
One other thing to note is that Matthew is the only one with a Cool Lights cold strike 1200w fresnel model. That was made as a one off, special request for Matthew. Back when we made those fresnels, no one else expressed interest in the cold start model. Thus, all other 1200w Cool Lights units out there--either par or fresnel--have the more expensive 575/1200 hot strike ballast which is also quite a bit more heavy duty than the 1200w only cold strike model which is an economy model and was never intended for any rental market.

For the most part and for simplicity in number of models out there, our strategy will be to only have the CDM or cold start models up to about 400w and the 575 and 1200s will be hot start.
 
Wow Richard.....Looks like you have been busy. Keep up the good work.
Steve

p.s. tell us what the economy is like now in China. That would be interesting to hear about.
 
Richard - sorry for hijacking your thread, but I can't find the answer on your site: are your fresnels gel-friendly out of the box? Any extra parts necessary to gel the lights?

Thanks!
 
Hi Jokerswild,

Thanks for your wishes! Yes its slowing down from about 8% to some lower number. I have heard of factory closings but have only been touched by one anodizing factory we used which shut down and we had to scramble around to find another one. I imagine others will go too. As brutal as it seems to them though, I doubt its as bad as our slowdown here in the USA.

Hi Bitterjester,

If you mean, do we have gelframes no we don't. You'd have to use one meant for an Arri. I think most just tape the gels to the barndoors when they use gels. Gelframes aren't as easy to make as they might seem. Lots of wasted metal in the punched out hole in the middle and its hard to get someone all that fired up about making them because of all the waste.
 
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