2 Emmy nominations.... thank you DVX USER!!!

"Truth be told, I feel kind of like an ass for posting that I got nominated. "

No yo should be proud. Proud cause you did nice job and finally feel llike someone recognized it. It's not that Emmys are bad, just that they are mostly pats on the back. Nothing worng with patting yourself on th back. I've won afew and am proud of it, but more proud that I did agood job rather than the fact that someone wanted my money first to see if I qualified then more of my money to give me an "award" for my work. If you didn't read teh article I linked to, thats how awards work. Anyone can enter most awards as long as yo have the $100-$400 entry fee. ANd when you win, you get a piece of paper saying you won. WHat no trophy? No, for that you have to pay. ANd if you want more for others to share the victory, they have to pay the $125-$350 for their award too. It's a gimmick started by folks who couldn't make it in the record business. (Inside joke saying that record company people are scum). I watched one company make a now well respected award program. The first year it was to get as many entries as possible. And every year after that the only concentration was to get as many entries as possible. THats how they make money. I remember meetings listening to them talk about strategy and never was anyone concerned with quality of any entries work, only that if they could reach their goal of 80,000 entries they could gross $10 million dollars. At that point they dare still charge you to pay for the "award" you won. Some award system. Tell you what tco, I haven't seen your work, but would like to. Can you post some? I'll bet its great like some of the great work others have posted here. Nicest award for me is to have someone see my work and say they thought it looked great. And that cost me nothing, but I gained true honest unsolicited admiration from my peers, not a phony system where "judges" are begged to judge (as they did with me for years with the Emmys) only to have me skip through tapes (not supposed to) because it was clear most entries sucked. And who bennifited? Lets see, you as an entrant paid to enter. Then you got some sort of award, maybe not first, but silver, or bronze or some other place that keeps everyone coming back next year to enter more. But to get that award you had to pay more. ANd if you wanted to get more statues you had to pay even more because while others deserve them in your group, awards are bought, not earned. ANd what did it cost you? Maybe $450 in the end, maybe more maybe less. And who benefits as your "award" sits on a shelf, the guy who runs the award show who spends four months out of the year living off the proceeds in his beach house trying to think of more ways to get the number of entries up so he can eventually sell the show to some outfit for eight times what its worth. Thats where many of these film festivals that seem to be in every corner of the planet come from too, from the Walla Walla film festival to the Cleveland Department of Sanitation Film festival. Same former record company guys making lots of money off folks who have the best intentions and work real hard to make a piece of work only to pay for it twice. Most folks don't really benefit, only the guys who collect the checks do. Your milage may vary. Here is something most folks don't know, anyone can be nominated for a noble prize. All you need to do is have a member of any national legislature or government or university professor send a letter nominating you. Do that and then you can officially tell folks you were nominated for a Noble. Each year about 450 people run for president. Bet you didn't know that. All you need to do is fill out the forms and you to can be an official presidential candidate. Thats one reason why so many do. Looks good on a resume or should I say its a conversation starter with a potential employer.
 
You know what? I think I'm going to run for president. Um... no. Well I agree with the money thing, but I am lucky in that my station picked up the cost of my entries, of course I used my own gear to shoot and edit the pack. The Pacific Southwest chapter charges us about 90 a year and entries vary from 45 bucks up to 200 I think. But, if you win they give you the statue at no cost, BUT anyone else has to pay 125 I think. And you know what? I just got a letter from the Emmy people saying that for 55 bucks they will give me a plaque of my nomination?! Well, I only want the statue if I win, but it is interesting how they're hawking these "nomination plaques" You know, San Diego might as well be on a different planet because it just seems like everyone in the business is pretty cool here, I grew up in LA and can tell you that when those guys come down here to shoot a story they are just total dicks. I've heard thier NATAS chapter is that way too. Well thanks again man, I'm going to go shoot a story about a marine coming home with no legs tommorow, his story transcends any award and I'm gonna make it sing, the few people that watch the news this weekend are going to know what Memorial day is all about. You have solid advice, take care and I will post a link soon, I just need the web space.
 
Walter,
You sound a tad "bitter". So you don't like awards....we got that part. You're a bit cranky, and it seems, a bit jaded. You've got a lot of experience, and you do a good job lighting stuff. Why don't you let other people have their opinions? I guess we should follow and keep our mouths shut.....
there doesn't seem to be any percentage in "rocking the boat". When I grow up, I want to be just like you.
 
maverickprods said:
Walter,
You sound a tad "bitter". So you don't like awards....we got that part. You're a bit cranky, and it seems, a bit jaded. You've got a lot of experience, and you do a good job lighting stuff. Why don't you let other people have their opinions? I guess we should follow and keep our mouths shut.....
there doesn't seem to be any percentage in "rocking the boat". When I grow up, I want to be just like you.

I never said anyone shouldn't have their opinions. Only here did I say that one post had some far-reaching assumptions cause thats what they were in my book. If you think awards are great, please by all means enter as many as you can. Just don't go around telling folks that its going to get you more work because I can give you over 200 years of collective experience from 10 of the best in the field right now not including myself that will tell you it isn't. I seem to sometimes be the curmudgeon when all I am is the realist often stopping assumptions before they become fact. It's great to win awards, helps make folks feel validated for their work. Nothing wrong with that, just offering another perspective on awards that folks don't consider. Call me bitter, or whatever makes you feel good, I'm just speaking from my experience. Yours may vary and thats great and welcome by me. So when you grow up, be who you want to be, don't try to be like me. :)
 
Well Walter, that last post was actually a decent one. In most of your posts today to me, you were condescending and rude. I, personally, don't care about award shows. I started out by saying that you could enter yourself into the Emmy's. Nobody really knew whether you could or not, until I posted rules 5 and 9.
I've been around the block a time or two in the film and television industry, and am a curmudgeon myself. I just don't like being called "ignorant or stupid" by anyone, even if those words weren't used specifically, you implied them.
I have over 400 credits in film and television, am a DGA 2nd unit director and was writing about personal knowledge with people that I am involved with. This started as information about Emmy entries, progressed to hoping toc got an Emmy and escalated into something fairly ugly with you. The problem is that having been a stuntman for over 20 years, when someone calls me out, I respond accordingly.
I really honestly could care less about anyone winning any kind of award, I have had waaaayyy too many actors take credit for what I, or the people working for me have done.
I like coming to this forum for the knowledge and information available, and that really is the bottom line.
I hope that this hasn't left a bitter taste in TOC's mouth about awards. I still hope he wins and it translates into real dollars.................
 
TCO,

Being nominated is an excellent achievement. Actually winning is, as they say, "the bomb". You can certainly translate that achievement into getting more work. Having the award is like having an ace up your sleeve -- two guys go competing for the same job, and their work is about comparable, but one of them is an Emmy winner? That will influence people to choose them, no matter what. If their work isn't comparable, then that's a different story -- nobody'd hire someone with a lousy reel but with an award on their shelf. However, just being an Emmy nominee says that your work's pretty darn good, so that shouldn't be an issue.

There are a lot of awards that appear to be somewhat bogus -- I've been running a thread on my experience with entering the competitions, just to see what's legit and what's a trophy mill (i.e., the "award" is meaningless, they exist just to collect entry fees). The Emmy is most definitely not a trophy mill, it's in a class by itself. It's got worldwide recognition, and in video work it's just about the highest level you can aspire to (the others being maybe the Oscar or the Clio, etc). Plus, unlike almost all the other awards competitions, you don't have to buy your own statue!

Congratulations on your nominations, and we wish you the best of luck at winning!
 
Thanks Barry and I also wish to thank you for your book. My tv station is talking about getting a dvx100a and I told them to go through a dealer where they get the book, which is like the Bible of the dvx. This site is priceless! Thanks again and I hope to have a post soon!
 
tco-
Being nominated for an Emmy is an accomplishment in itself! DO NOT EVEN think that about yourself (feeling like an ass)! Those that should feel like asses are those that have tried to make you feel less about yourself and your work (envy maybe?). I, personally, am GLAD you posted that you have two nominations ... it gives me hope that we, too, will someday receive the same honor! (Please!!!!!!) So - CONGRATS and keep up the good work! And post that link ASAP!
 
Winning awards doesn't make you better, but it does make you feel better because some of your peers thought that your work was good enough to recognize. Hopefully these good feelings will encourage you to become better at your craft. Also, the awards are a good marketing tool, and you can use them to get more customers.

So congratulations TCO.
 
Thanks guys,
can anyone tell me where I can post this package I shot? My personal web page is not up yet, and I dont have enough space on my provders "free" area. thanks alot!
 
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