Also you will find different page count for
MM courier
FD courier
Courier
Courier New
Try a cut and paste. All different.
MM courier
FD courier
Courier
Courier New
Try a cut and paste. All different.
Does anybody still use the courier font??
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pmark23
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I know what you're saying. The reason is that they use different spacings between the lines, and some cheat the kerning.
Printed they should look the same (although with the spacing differences). Some purposefully render on the screen crappier to be faster. If it prints crappy, then you're probably right that something is wrong.
Believe me, I've tried the same Courier tests you did (to find the tightest Courier for the highest page count -- which was FD's Courier).
Incidentally, if you really want to cheat to get the most pages into 120, import into Word, change the character line-spacing by a few fractions of a point, then export as a PDF. If you want to play with fire you can change the pitch by a fraction or two (to, say, 11.8).
Printed they should look the same (although with the spacing differences). Some purposefully render on the screen crappier to be faster. If it prints crappy, then you're probably right that something is wrong.
Believe me, I've tried the same Courier tests you did (to find the tightest Courier for the highest page count -- which was FD's Courier).
Incidentally, if you really want to cheat to get the most pages into 120, import into Word, change the character line-spacing by a few fractions of a point, then export as a PDF. If you want to play with fire you can change the pitch by a fraction or two (to, say, 11.8).
I found a little bit of a cheat - I put the paragraph spacing at "exactly 12 pt" in New Courier. That saved 6 pages. I guess it's close enough.
The funny thing is, I know they have these people at studios that process and turn script documents into that "official" courier so they know the "true" page count. I only wish I had these guys' secrets. Sigh...
pmark - if you do change the font to 11.8, does that mess up the font in any way? I heard that outside of the "acceptable" font sizes (10, 12, 14, etc.) that the font doesn't render correctly. Going into decimals seems dangerous but potentially might work. What do you think?
The funny thing is, I know they have these people at studios that process and turn script documents into that "official" courier so they know the "true" page count. I only wish I had these guys' secrets. Sigh...
pmark - if you do change the font to 11.8, does that mess up the font in any way? I heard that outside of the "acceptable" font sizes (10, 12, 14, etc.) that the font doesn't render correctly. Going into decimals seems dangerous but potentially might work. What do you think?
True Courier
True Courier
Hi, there.
In regards to your posts about which Courier font to use, etc., I can assure you the industry standars is COURIER OLD. That is the "original" as was asked in an earlier post. It was created many years ago to preserve the original typewriter version. All the new ones are variations on the original, but they're all different enough that they become a nuisance -- including the one used in Final Draft.
As for using pictures in screenplays, why not throw in maps, character designs and sound stage blueprints as well? Sorry, but you don't put pictures in screenplays.
If you're James Cameron or someone with a proven track record, by all means redefine how a screenplay is written. But if you're trying to break in, unless your story literally jumps off the page, it will be put aside. Readers want any excuse to not read your script. They want an excuse to "judge" it trash and move onto the next script. Typos, errors in syntax and improper formatting all create the impression of someone who thinks just because he has a word processor, suddenly he's a writer. And your script will be judged accordingly.
So for your own good, drop the picture from your screenplay. You'll thank me someday.
True Courier
Hi, there.
In regards to your posts about which Courier font to use, etc., I can assure you the industry standars is COURIER OLD. That is the "original" as was asked in an earlier post. It was created many years ago to preserve the original typewriter version. All the new ones are variations on the original, but they're all different enough that they become a nuisance -- including the one used in Final Draft.
As for using pictures in screenplays, why not throw in maps, character designs and sound stage blueprints as well? Sorry, but you don't put pictures in screenplays.
If you're James Cameron or someone with a proven track record, by all means redefine how a screenplay is written. But if you're trying to break in, unless your story literally jumps off the page, it will be put aside. Readers want any excuse to not read your script. They want an excuse to "judge" it trash and move onto the next script. Typos, errors in syntax and improper formatting all create the impression of someone who thinks just because he has a word processor, suddenly he's a writer. And your script will be judged accordingly.
So for your own good, drop the picture from your screenplay. You'll thank me someday.
GCWriter, thank you for your opinion. I used to think like you too. Everything had to be strictly by the rules. I respected them for a long time, even going so far as to debate "2 brads vs. 3 brads". But in the end, assuming you respect the general expectations of producers, agents, etc., you should do anything you can to tell the story better. And sometimes that means breaking the rules (I know. Gasp!). I'm sure you'd also be the one who threw down Shane Black's Lethal Weapon script as soon as he described a house as, "the kind of house I'm going to buy when I sell this script."
But don't worry. I don't blame you. All these mainstream hack-y screenwriting books have convinced the masses that there's only one way to approach the screenwriting craft and if you don't follow it you will never succeed. This, of course, is the reason we get movies like Wanted, Hancock, and Indian Jones 4. Think outside of the box brother. You'll thank me someday.
But don't worry. I don't blame you. All these mainstream hack-y screenwriting books have convinced the masses that there's only one way to approach the screenwriting craft and if you don't follow it you will never succeed. This, of course, is the reason we get movies like Wanted, Hancock, and Indian Jones 4. Think outside of the box brother. You'll thank me someday.
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pmark23
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A lot of my job involves writing pitches, proposals, and plans, and I always change the pitch (among other things) to get the right appearance for the document. Never had a problem. Fonts are stored in vector format, so they can be rescaled to any size. The only problem you run into is that once you get too small or too large the letters can look funny. Adobe came up with their own format which corrects for this.