64 Bit - Premiere/Vegas? - Barry? Anyone?

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I was just getting ready to buy the HP 4GB Memory, 320GB Hard Drive, Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T555 17" laptop with the 64 Bit. As I was getting ready to pay for it, the sale person told me that he didn't think either Vegas Pro or Premiere CS3 would work on this computer and that I would have to go with the 32 Bit.

I was thinking of going with Vegas because I have heard that it was an easier editing system for someone that has been using imovie :-) The down fall is that you have to download another software - Raylight to make it work with the P2 card.

I was also told with Premiere you won't need to get any other softwares to make it run with the P2 card. It is already set up for it. It is a harder software to work with but it is learnable.

Will I need to look for a different computer now with the 32 Bit? What are your thoughts on direction I should head? Also should I switch to Premiere? I will be doing HD editing only.

I have until tonight to pick up the laptop before it get sold to someone else. I got a good price on it at Best Buy - $950 - The reg price is $1149.
 
I spend my time between Alaska (USA) and New Zealand. At the moment I'm in Anchorage, Alaska. I will be heading to Gisborne in three months. Will be staying in Brown Bay for a few days then will head down to Gisborne. What part of Auckland are you located at?
 
We use vista64 with the entire CS3 suite perfectly.

Also, I talked to an engineer about CS3 at NAB and he said the entire suite is certified for Vista. He said CS2 will have some problems.

The ability to have each adobe software use 4gb of ram is real nice too, Eliminates alot of "out of memory" issues you run into dealing with long form programs like movies, or lots of effects/cuts.
 
Demistate said:
We use vista64 with the entire CS3 suite perfectly.

Also, I talked to an engineer about CS3 at NAB and he said the entire suite is certified for Vista. He said CS2 will have some problems.

The ability to have each adobe software use 4gb of ram is real nice too, Eliminates alot of "out of memory" issues you run into dealing with long form programs like movies, or lots of effects/cuts.
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So the CS3 suite does use 64-bit memory addressing? I was under the impression that even though it could run on Vista 64, that it only operated in 32 bit mode. Did the engineer at NAB comment on this?

I have copy of Vista 64 in the closet cause I couldn't get it to play nice with my graphics card. Maybe I'll dig it out and try to fix the problem.
 
i was under the impression that CS3 did not utilize mutli-processors?

however, 4gigs of ram is pretty nice
 
nantnee said:
i was under the impression that CS3 did not utilize mutli-processors?

however, 4gigs of ram is pretty nice
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When I'm rendering in PPro CS3 I can check the hardware monitor (Crtl-Alt-Delete) and it shows both of my cores running at or near 100%.

Whether or not it utilizes more than one physical processor I don't know. If it didn't, it would certainly be a waste to run it on a dual Xeon system.
 
devjt2 said:
So the CS3 suite does use 64-bit memory addressing? I was under the impression that even though it could run on Vista 64, that it only operated in 32 bit mode. Did the engineer at NAB comment on this?

I have copy of Vista 64 in the closet cause I couldn't get it to play nice with my graphics card. Maybe I'll dig it out and try to fix the problem.
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Short Answer:

Premiere Pro CS3:
64Bit = Up to 4 gb of ram
32bit = about 2gb of ram accessable.



Long Answer:
32bit programs have a 4gigabyte memory usage maximum. Period.

However in a 32bit OS, it can only access 4GB of memory for EVERYTHING. This includes drivers, programs running, Video Memory being used, Page file. etc.

So even without having more than 4 GB of ram, you'll be able to have a 32-bit process in a 64bit OS access up to 4GB of memory at a time.

In a XP32 the OS will split up your memory usage as 2gb system and 2gb OS, so your programs don't grow too large to choke up the system and have it crash.
 
devjt2 said:
When I'm rendering in PPro CS3 I can check the hardware monitor (Crtl-Alt-Delete) and it shows both of my cores running at or near 100%.

Whether or not it utilizes more than one physical processor I don't know. If it didn't, it would certainly be a waste to run it on a dual Xeon system.
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Premiere Pro while rendering in the Adobe Media encoder, and Black-Magic video encoder uses up all 4 cores on my editing system. Depending on the software rendering it uses up about 60-95% of my CPU.

I'd have to check during playback in the timeline.
 
Forgive the thread hijacking...

Demistate, can you describe your editing setup to us? You mention you are using CS3 with Vista x64, and in your last post you mention using some blackmagic products. I'm interested to know more about your workflow.
 
We use a Core 2 Quad 2.4ghz with 4 gigs of ram running Windows Vista X64 (It is not SP1, since some of our software doesn't work properly in it at the business, however all the editing stuff would work just fine)

I use a Black-Magic Intensity Pro for now running the x64 driver (A final release driver, not beta) We use the Adobe CS3 master suite.

Most of the time I work in Premiere Pro and After Effects, however I will sometimes use Encore for Mastering.

95% of our capturing is live from an HDMI source. The other 5% is from D5 deck. We're upgrading to the Black-Magic MultiBridge Pro so we can import and export to the d5 via HD-SDI.

We capture to a fibe channel raid system with 10 drives in it. I'm not sure of the brand name because our IT department takes care of it.

No problems. No hitches. No issues with Memory. All smooth sailing. Just wish we had more than 1.1Tb of online storage.

I can use the Project consolidation software built into Premiere Pro to make smaller versions of finished projects to go on network server for long-term backups. We are not tape based at all, but we could be with the Multibridge Pro.
 
i run my toshiba Core2 T5200 4 gig of ram with CS3, + one external 7200 rpm drive and the plows through DVCPROHD
 
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