Advantages Of Vegas Pro 8 over Vegas 7

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plainman007

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Hi from all of you who are now using Vegas 8 Pro. can you give me your feedback as to how it performs much better than Vegas 7. Is there a difference in Rendering speed ? Realtime Playback Speed ? Does the 10 bit color make an obvious difference in final output quality ? Any and all feedback woudl be appreciated.
 
This was discussed here about 2 months ago. Make a search.

Vegas 8 Pro has the same rendering speed but it's faster for HDV. Basically, most of the optimizations are for HD formats. The 10 bit color is 32bit btw, and it's slow. But yes, it can help the overall quality, especially when you color grade or rotate the footage.
 
My question was specific. Only to discuss the differences between Vegas 7 and Vegas 8 Pro. I dont see a thread thats specific to that. Unfortunately the search function doesnt give you context specificity. Maybe if i read every thread that had "VEGAS 8" in it then i could waste a lot of time reading a lot of irrelevant posts. Would appreciate if you can just answer to the thread or maybe else you can just ignore it. Ive noticed that there are quite a few my threads where you have chimed in only to say "go search the forum", and in another instance "this should not even be a thread here, before searching the forum, i come from a programmers background and this is so superficial" or something along those lines. With all due respect i dont think your the moderator here to tell us what to do. You can either help, or dont. I can show you hundreds or probably thousands of questions on this forum that are repetitions but all in their own flavour. You seem to have a good knowledge of the subject etc but dont put other people down. Would it have just occured to you that every time a question is repeated. It gets a new set of replies. New users chime in. New ideas and innovations surface. Every poster has something specific in mind. You can maybe just post a link to a helpful thread instead of making it look like we are at fault.
 
I know searching sucks (search for my rant on searching dvxuser :) ), but all those questions have been answered ad-nauseum. There's even a sticky at the top which goes through about everything you asked.
 
I cannot enthusiastically recommend V8 over V7 unless you work in a LOT of HDV, and/or really want the 32-bit color. As I may have mentioned before, it's an incremental upgrade at best, and buggier.

One thing Sony does that's smart is to make the upgrade package so cheap, so it makes sense to do it when it's introduced and you can snag it for under $150. More than that, though . . . I dunno. I'd have a tough time saying that you should definitely do it.

You might want to check out Ed Troxel's newsletters; they usually have a pretty good overview of the new features and the advantages they provide. But as an intensive user . . . well, I already said.
 
Hi David > Yes i do work mainly with HDV. Not a lot but we actually invested in an NLE only for HDV based editing. I am from the events industry and most of my work is for our own giant screen projection. Not much of DVD delivery etc. So since my final delivery is mostly giant screen will the 32 bit color make any difference to the non technical viewing audience ? When you say buggier ...are there any prominent bugs that may make my workflow more difficult than with ver.7 ? Thanks.

PMark > I actually tried the search and didnt get much of a result. In fact sometimes i get only 3 threads etc in reply to a single word search itself. Maybe my luck or something to do with my browsers cookies.
 
The best thing that Vegas 8 offers for HDV is no recompressed renders on straight cuts to HDV footage. Aside from that, like David said, it's a very incremental upgrade and quite possibly the most buggy release Vegas has had. There are a number of people having issues with Canon .m2t files and Vegas 8, myself included. Cineform has saved my bacon on a couple of projects but for the most part, I'm back in Vegas 7 doing most of my editing until 8 stabilizes more.

Like David said also, Sony's upgrades are uber cheap. Nice to grab them while they're not so much $$, but as with any new versions, recommendation is to finish current projects in the versions you started just in the case of a bug that you can't then roll back and correct if you're now in the latest, newest release.

Rendering speed in Vegas 8 is improved as is playback. Is it so improved that it's worth the upgrade? That's best left decided by each user.

I would download the demo, test it out and see if it works for you. May not hurt to wait for Vegas 9 and let them use Vegas 8 as a way to make 9 less buggy.

Cheno
 
Chenopup said:
The best thing that Vegas 8 offers for HDV is no recompressed renders on straight cuts to HDV footage.
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I'm not sure what this means. Especially the "straight cuts to HDV footage" part.

I've heard version 8 has much better titling than 6. that true? Titling kinda blows in Vegas.
 
brianluce said:
I'm not sure what this means. Especially the "straight cuts to HDV footage" part.

I've heard version 8 has much better titling than 6. that true? Titling kinda blows in Vegas.
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Vegas won't recompress HDV footage if you haven't done anything to warrant a "rerender" - meaning if you bring footage in and do straight cutting (no fx), Vegas will rewrite an .m2t without recompressing the original footage. Keeps the footage cleaner in the long run. Big timesaver if you need to just do basic cuts only and stitch footage together.

ProType titler is improved but the funky interface that in many ways doesn't interface with Vegas correctly is pretty sad. It feels like an add on but has potential down the line if implemented more like Avid / Adobe's titlers.
 
Ive heard some people having trouble in quality with even the pro type titler. For me its photoshop always. Except that some things like kerning etc can't be animated if its a photoshop title.
 
Chenopup > But the main thing is M2t is such a compressed stream that i rarely if ever edit it directly. I always render to Uncompressed AVI which lends itself better to color correction and other tampering. Then from there i render out to taste. I know its one generation extra but uncompressed works smoother on my system. Also ive heard when keying with HDV its better to work with an uncompressed avi rather than the original m2t. But i might be wrong on this. Ofcourse theres also a huge file size when working uncompressed but storage is becoming so cheap these days. But i think ill take your and Davids idea. Ill wait it out for Vegas 9. But i think the im not qualified for upgrades right ? :)
 
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