1080p 300fps in new Samsung consumer camcorder?????

Ian Slessor

Ian Slessor

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Was over at camcorderinfo.com and they're reporting Samsung has a new flash based consumer camcorder that'll shoot "full HD" 1080p (with a 1/8 in. ccd..hah!) and shoot at 30p OR 60p AND - for 10 seconds max - 300p!

I can't begin to imagine how much light you'd need to shoot 300fps.

Oh, and SHOOTS progessive but outputs interlaced...*sigh*

Anyway the link's here.


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Eh, according to the article the 300fps function works like Sony's Smooth Slow Record, which costs you about 2/3 of your resolution. It was a gimmick on the V1U and it's going to be a gimmick on this camera as well. And I completely don't understand the part about shooting progressive but out putting interlaced. 30p and 60p doesn't have pulldown, so shouldn't it be either progressive or interlaced?
 
Those high-frame-rate features take advantage of the CMOS sensor design by using "pixel binning"; it lets you treat a block of pixels as if they were a single pixel. The bigger you make the "bin" the faster you can read the chip, but the lower the resolution you're getting.

In short I seriously doubt you'd be getting "full 1080p" resolution at 300fps, you'd probably be getting about 320x240 at that rate.
 
1/8" is very depressing. Even for a consumer cam 1/8" is really not a good idea (and in HD), still I'm sure lots of people will but it.

I think thewhole 300FPS is a novel feature, I've seen the Sony implementation, and it really is a novel feature, but not something you could use serioulsy.

These cameras do prove that consumer HD camcorders are becoming common, for good or worse :)


I'm waiting for the next "blair Witch" style film to come out from these new breed of cheapo HD cameras !
 
I used that Sony super-slo mo on a music video and it was a pain in the butt. Not only is the resolution super low (so if you shoot HDV and then do this, it doesn't really match in as it's so low-res. I'd rather shoot 60fps in the HVX and slow it down and deal with ghosting than have ridiculous amounts of pixellation) but it only records at a certain time AFTER you hit the record button so it took us almost an hour of shooting the same thing over and over again to actually get it. Considering we were shooting a picture frame getting throw against the ground and breaking, by the time we got the shot the frame was basically done, it had been thrown so many times!

Not impressed at all.
 
For those who may not understand why it takes a while, understand that the V1U/FX7's slow-mo isn't at all like the HVX's or EX1's. On those cameras the footage is recorded to the card in realtime, but on the HDV camcorders you can't do that. So what the HDV cams do is they have an internal memory buffer that lets you record up to, say, 15 seconds of footage. Then when you're done recording it fires up the tape drive and starts copying that footage out at the frame rate the tape drive can handle. So if you were shooting 15 seconds of footage at 240fps, that'll take about a minute for the camera to "flush" the memory buffer out to the tape.
 
1/8" is very depressing. Even for a consumer cam 1/8" is really not a good idea (and in HD), still I'm sure lots of people will but it.
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i think my canon elura has a bigger sensor, i believe its 1.5" and its SD. hate to think what kind of quality this cam has...
 
I'm sure he meant 1/5th inch.

The Sony V1's slow motion is strictly for YouTube type resolution, or amateur and home videos and such. Works great for that - way cool. No pro would make serious use of such a feature. This camera seems the same, only much poorer chips. Does anyone know the latest on Casio's camera in development that will shoot serious overcranking?
 
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