New Nebtek monitor

What attachment did he send you? UltraLight equipment? Can you attach the link? I googled it but didnt find anything about an articulating arm or mount.

Thanks for the info. I was planning on getting a Z-american large for my Nebtek, which arrives a week from today. I sold m Noga as I knew it would not cut it. But I'm open to suggestion...
 
the attachment is a pdf, but i don't know how to attach documents on this forum. if you tell me how, i'll attach it... or send me your email and i'll forward it to you.
the z-american is a great piece of equipment. i use the small and when i want it to be large i just screw an extension rod onto it. it works perfectly and saves you buying another arm. but still, even with the z-american, the panasonic felt too heavy. the problem really is when you go handheld, because if you're on a tripod you can use the z-american in its best position, and place the monitor on top of it. but, when you are handheld, the monitor needs to be placed somewhat away from you and the camera, which means that the arm needs to be a little extended (and you need the large version of the arm, or the extension rod). in this position, the panasonic adds tremendous weight to your camera, but especially the arm can loosen if you do quick moves (especially vertical movements, up or down). it happened to me. so, i'd be very careful to purchase the panasonic if you're going to do handheld work. i am still not sure how the nebtek will handle this? i mean, 2.5 lbs is still heavy compared to the 1.1 lbs of the ikan. i am really curious if anyone has tried handheld work with the nebtek and would like to know how they feel.
 
support for handheld

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Tuki, I've been experimenting with heavy handheld stuff, and it's no fun. I am working on a few things for a setup like you are looking to use: I have a Steadicam Ultra which is great for that type of work. I am now also building a small mount to use with the FLyer vest instead of the Steadicam arm when going handheld. It will let me hang the hvx, monitor etc. from a small elastic bungee cord, hung from a metal beam overhead. The principle is the same as the systems that ENG cameramen use to distribute some of the weight from the shoulder to their back. Also I'll be buying the DV Multirig pro that is very versatile and will a.m.o. allow for support from a spring loaded rod attached to your belt. Don't do heavy handheld for long stretches, it ain't good for you. The benefit of a bigger and/or heavier rig , supported by some system is the same in steadicam and handheld: more mass plus distribution of weight will stabilise the cmaera. If you adversively want quick movements, strip the camera and operate with a hangover ;-)
 
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thanks soren. actually i use the zacuto and i love it. i mean it's really a great support system to balance the weight, especially with the camera getting front-heavy because of the 35mm lenses. so my concern is not so much the weight in itself, but that the gear that i use is rock solid and won't move or bend while i work. therefore my concern with a heavy monitor.
 
So I received my NEB70HD and wanted to thank everyone for their input on the monitor. Definitely helped in finalizing my decision.

The monitor is sharp. I would agree with a previous post that the image has a slight edge over the marshall. This unit is bright. The daylight viewable coating works rather well. Aside from direct sunlight reflecting into your eyes, I can still see what I'm doing. The three levels of peaking helps in those situations. I prefer to keep peaking at level 1 during normal conditions with a Brevis attached. Everything pretty much has been said about the image so I won't bore you with repetitive comments. It's a beatifully sharp monitor. Once calibrated you will drool. Nuff said.

The monitor is built tough and looks great. It's a bit on the heavy side though, for you Noga users. I tested a Noga Arm last friday, and it did not cut it. Even with the arm bent, a bump in my step would cause travel. It is not safe for your $2k investment. I think I will try the zacuto Z-american Large. If that doesn't work, I think the only way I'll be able to use this monitor in handheld config is with a DVrig Pro HD, which I belive has a screw mount or hot shoe above the hand grips.

My only gripe about this monitor is the connector box. It has the best and worst component connection at the same time. It allows your component cables to plug straight backwards into the box or from the side (by mounting the box sideways). This is a great option to have! The sideways config, known as camera mode, is alot more compact and keeps the cables tuck in and out of the way. However, the sideways config does not support the lithium ion camera battery upgrade. Meaning, when you purchase the panny battery upgrade, for example, your onboard battery will prevent you from using your connector box in the sideways config (camera mode) because it gets in the way of where your component cables would be. This forces you to use the monitor on your camera in steadicam mode (straight back). Now, while most monitors have their component connections plugging straight into the back of the unit, the Nebtek's connector box adds depth to the monitor. In total, I'd say the monitor + connector box in steadicam mode is about 3 inches deep (rough estimate). And then you have the component cables sticking out even more. If you are using bnc adapters like I am its even further out. This is a bit cumbersome for on-camera use.

Now I know you're saying "well, if you want to use the connector box sideways, then just buy AB or IDX batteries with xlr plugs which work with that configuration."

This is true. But, one of the main reason for choosing the Nebtek over the BTLH80W was the camera-battery option. For $100 I don't have to spend on an expensive battery/charger, which keeps the overall monitor cost low. Now, if I purchase an AB or IDX battery or if I had already owned one, I might have considered to just spend the extra $200 or so and gone with the Panasonic for its pixel accurate viewing option, waveform/vector, and focus-in-red.

This may not be a deal breaker for you. It's not for me. I'm not psyched about it (the connector box issue), but the NEB70HD's image is excellent, it's daylight viewable, it has a flip for my non-flip adapter (and I don't plan on getting a flip as I'm not fond of the form factor of flipped 35mm adapter/cameras).

Nothing is perfect right? I only bring this up because I didn't realize this when I made my decision. It's totally form-factor related and not image-related, which should be the most important.

On a side note, Rob at Nebtek provides the best customer support. I've said that about many people on the boards, but Rob is in a league of his own. You should see the time he's taken in answering all of my questions via email. He asked me to post an honest review for you all. Nebtek definitely has the user in mind.
 
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I too have been in touch with Rob at Nebtek. He is an awesome guy and and has been responding to my inquiries even though is at home sick in bed. What dedication. I highly recommend Rob and Nebtek, he is a rare professional.

The monitor sounds as if it is an awsome deal, I am looking forward to checking it out.

Dan
 
thanks arrik. can you explain what you mean when you say:
"I'm not fond of the form factor of flipped 35mm adapter/cameras "
excuse my ignorance, but i don't understand what the form factor is....
 
Well, I just mean the vertical offset from the flip adapters. It requires you to significantly raise or shim your camera body to allow for the adapter to mate properly with its rails attachment and mattebox. Take a look at some of the extreme rigs or the brevis flip module pics.

I just think it looks like it would feel cumbersome and top heavy. Though I must admit that the zacuto solution, which either raises or drops an extension of rails to matte your mattebox to your adapter, works a bit better.

Though I may have to pick up a brevis flip anyway if users can verify edge-to-edge and hvx lens offset improvents. If that happens, then at least with the NEB70HD, I'll have the option to use the adapter in both configurations (flip and non flip).
 
So how is everyone enjoying this monitor? Most of you are using it for a while now. Can you elaborate on the pros and cons of this monitor? And which mounting arm do you use? I would like to be able to use the monitor for handheld work as well.
 
I've had the monitor since December and am really enjoying it. I shoot w/ an HVX-200 and use a Brevis 35 adapter quite a bit. The monitor doesn't have the same "look" as the built in LCD on the HVX, but, according to Nebtiek, the HVX monitor is a bit oversaturated, and they set theirs up closer to reality. I'm using the Ultralight support system they sell. The way I found it on their site is to search the word 'ultralight'. It's a great support system and has worked really well.
I haven't tried the system hand-held yet. I don't have the setup/shoulder mount for that.
My overall impressions of the monitor-"love it!".
 
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