Still examples of the Brevis using Vista-Vision frame size instead of Super 35

marco0782

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These are some stills from a feature I photographed over the summer. Underneath each image is the focal length and f-stop I used. Benefitting from the larger frame size possible with the Brevis I was able to get a wider field of view which helped give the film a unique look. Notice that there is no falloff in the corners and that there is good edge to edge sharpness. This is because still lenses are designed to handle larger frame sizes.


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85mm f/1.8

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85mm f/1.8

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35mm f/2.4

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35mm f/2.4

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35mm f/2.4

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20mm f/4.0

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85mm f/1.8

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85mm f/1.8

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50mm f/1.4


I've posted these stills before in the forum but thought it would be appropriate to show them again in a different context. In another thread we were having a discussion about whether or not to use the Super 35mm frame size which has a smaller field of view, and I wanted to show what kind of results you can get if you use a larger frame size.

To give an example, I photographed the old woman and girl in the cemetery using my 85. If I had used the Super 35mm frame size instead I would have needed a lens around 60mm to achieve the same field of view. Or, I could have used my 85 and just placed the camera further away, but this would make the depth of field less shallow since my subject distance increases. But by using my 85mm lens and the Vista-Vision frame size I was able to get a relatively wide image that looks both flat (since telephoto lenses flatten perspective) and shallow (since I was using a long focal length at a short subject distance).

What's my point? My point is that there are other ways besides Super 35 to shoot film, so we shouldn't feel restricted when using our 35mm adapters. Depending on the needs of your project you might want the Super 35 look, or you could try something larger like Vista-Vision or smaller like Techniscope and get results that are different than mainstream.


Marco
 
Thanks for sharing. There awesome. I've been shooting medium format forever and I love the larger format frame. I think it's awesome that Brevis gives you that artistic option. The VistaVision frame kicks ass................


Pappas
 
Thanks for posting this. I said it before in another post, but the performance of that 20mm is something special :-)
 
Those are beautiful grabs. I'm sure the moving image is equally compelling!

Is this film available anywhere online?
 
On a strictly economic note consider the advantage of using the full 35mm frame. Wide angle lenses are incredibly expensive. With Full frame using anything between 28mm and 20 mm we can get some very nice wide but not distorted shots on a budget that is very affordable. That's what we can see in these frame grabs.

Considering that indies are often forced to shoot in tiny spaces, this can be a godsend, saving you from lousy distorted or cramped compositions. There are pro's & cons to all these issues and I'm begining to feel like I want to have more than one adapter for different purposes.

Lenny Levy
 
Thanks guys. The film isn't online because the editor hasn't finished cutting yet. It'll hit festivals then, and perhaps eventually it will be online. That said I hope to post some clips in the future with the director's permission.

And yes, that 20mm let us shoot in very tight spaces. We couldn't have done it without the larger frame size of the Brevis. :)


Marco
 
Thanks man, I lit them both with Kino Flos. There was a 4FT 4BANK Kino suspended above the dining table on speed rail, right above the chandelier (that was the motivation for the light). Only the center two banks were on. For the over the shoulder of the girl there was a Kino Diva-Lite (on camera left near the bottm left corner of the table) to give her more fill.

The whole movie was lit minimalistically with Kinos and light bounces off the ceiling. The Brevis and the CF1 made this possible because of the low light loss.


Marco
 
Again man, beautiful shots, but what is thi speed rail that you speak of?

I have worked on sets where people have had these extendable poles that have suction cups at either ends, and the tubes are telescoping so you can extend or retract them to fit any wall length ( obviously to a certain extent ), but what are these called besides speed rails as i can't find anything on google. Whats the name for such a piece of equipment? Or do you have perhaps a photo of it?
 
Speed rail is essentially schedule 40 pipe attached to the wall with a wall spreader. The telescoping tube your talking about is an autopole by Manfrotto.
 
Some great looking shots there.

Did you shoot 720P or 1080P? Nikon lenses? What software did you use to extract those stills and into which initial format/resolution?

Cheers! :beer:
 
Did you shoot 720P or 1080P? Nikon lenses? What software did you use to extract those stills and into which initial format/resolution?
We shot 720pn24 with M42 screw mount lenses. The Brevis and SGpro are the only two adapters I know of that offer an M42 mount. These lenses are of exceptional quality and are relatively inexpensive.

My lenses were:

Carl Zeiss Flektogon 20mm f/2.8 - $300 on eBay
Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35mm f/2.4 - $300 on eBay
(It's important to note that this lens has a close focus of 4 inches which is much better than the standard Nikon 35mm's)

Pentax SMC Takumar 50mm f/1.4 - $80 on eBay
Pentax SMC Takumar 85mm f/1.8 - $250 on eBay because the f/1.8 model is harder to find than the f/1.9

Dennis at Cinevate was kind enough to overnight me a prototype micro-collimation M42 mount before we started shooting and this helped me get great sharpness. I would have achieved higher sharpness still but I wanted to shoot wide open and I set my detail level to -3 to keep the noise down a bit.

I captured my footage directly to Final Cut Pro, then exported still images as PNG files at 960x720 (the native resolution) which I resized in Photoshop to 853x480.


what is thi speed rail that you speak of?
I'll ask my gaffer exactly how he rigged it. We didn't use a wall spreader but instead a high roller stand. It was very carefully secured with rope and sandbags to offset the weight of the light. Based on the dimensions of the room and where I wanted to put the camera this was the easiest setup.


Thanks for all the kind comments. :)


Marco
 
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