Going from Premiere Pro to FCP....woah....help?

MatthewC

MatthewC

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I just installed FCP on my Macbook I recently bought. I took a 30 second gander around to see how it compares and it seems pretty straight forward.

My major beef is that if I do anything to the video it requires re-rendering. Premiere Pro doesn't. Is there anyway around this? I found a Play Base file setting in the preferences so if I change anything to the video file I can still see it in the preview window without changes until I render it. Is there anyway around this re-render with every change?
It's more than a little frustrating to color correct, etc. and not have the changes reflected realtime on playback.


Also, are there any tips for this sucker? I'm fairly adept at PPro and I'm learning FCP because film school starts in a week and I figure might as well be ahead of the game. It's quite the learning experience. If anyone has any "oh, dont forget to do this, it'll save you time and effort" tips that would be excellent. I'm going through tutorials I can find right now and going to print out the manual tomorrow.
 
What kind of macbook is it? Not a mac book pro? How much ram etc? Effects always need some system power. a mac book pro does handle it very well, i don t know about a regular mac book... i think we need some more info. also, what kind of footage are you editing?

the other thing: if you really want to be ahead: go out and buy Diana Weynand book on fcp. It s great. You could also sign up with lynda.com. they have some really good tuts... oh, and don t bother printing out the manual, toooooo much information :) really well to look up stuff, but it is just too huge...
 
A whole thirty seconds.... wow... how did you spare the time?

I have spent over a solid week and read all the manuals and a third party book and I havent even got my system yet.

I also am migrating across from Premiere to FCP but felt I needed to spend some serious time to learn this new application.
 
I think you can start working with fcp very quickly - if you don t go in too deep. You'll be able to edit something real soon. It gets complicated as soon as you start using all the other studio programs... motion/soundtrack/color (!)
 
are you using FCP6? if not you may have the wrong timeline settings, video has to match the timeline or you have to render it, also check that RT in the upper left of the timeline is not set to safe.
 
hobbes said:
What kind of macbook is it? Not a mac book pro? How much ram etc? Effects always need some system power. a mac book pro does handle it very well, i don t know about a regular mac book... i think we need some more info. also, what kind of footage are you editing?

the other thing: if you really want to be ahead: go out and buy Diana Weynand book on fcp. It s great. You could also sign up with lynda.com. they have some really good tuts... oh, and don t bother printing out the manual, toooooo much information :) really well to look up stuff, but it is just too huge...
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It's a model from February, 2.16 Intel Core 2 Duo with 1 gig of ram and the Superdrive. I definitely need another stick of ram. In another thread a lot of users claimed to work with a Macbook and FCP no problem, even with HD video. It's Motion, Color, After Effects that apparently have issues due to the lack of integrated quality video card. The footage I'm editing will be FCP.


Shooter said:
A whole thirty seconds.... wow... how did you spare the time?

I have spent over a solid week and read all the manuals and a third party book and I havent even got my system yet.

I also am migrating across from Premiere to FCP but felt I needed to spend some serious time to learn this new application.
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Geez dude, 30 seconds was just an exaggeration. I spent a little bit more time than that but it was meant to show I didn't have hours to check it out. Congratulations, I really wish I could be as thorough and intelligent as you in my approach to the situation. But maybe installing FCP right before bed and running on 2 hours of sleep I really just didn't have the time to dive right into it but wanted to satisfy my editors curiosities. So sorry. I'll try to live up to your standards.

matt4836 said:
are you using FCP6? if not you may have the wrong timeline settings, video has to match the timeline or you have to render it, also check that RT in the upper left of the timeline is not set to safe.
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It's FCP 5. I'll be going over the interface later today to figure some more of that stuff out. Thanks man. I'll have to do some fiddling. If shooting 24p then I'm assuming my timeline needs the 23.97 settings eh? Premiere Pro always listed my 23.97 clips at 29.97 or whatever it is, even when brought in at 23.97. hehe
 
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yes that will do it, while you are learning FCP5, i recommend that you edit SD video, 29.97fps then when you are fimilar with the process try goofing around with different settings and time lines. if you want to try to use your 24p stuff, go to sequence>Settings, and make sure all your settings there match the clip you want to bring to the timeline. FCP6 does this for you.
 
HAHAHAHA ---

Says it all:

Ovjamaica said: "Filmmaking is NOT about getting all of the technical details write. "(sic)

Other than the spelling, it should say - Filmmaking is not about doing anything on your own, it's about having others do it for you. But the spelling shows the care you take in your work.

Take the time or get off the ride.

However... done my ranting...

Make sure you are using the term 24p in the way you think you are... here on this forum that means 29.97 with a 3.2 pulldown cadence.

Don't want to be editing THAT in 23.98.

Don't be afraid to ask questions -- but if you ask things that are really stupid and you should have figured it out on your own don't be mad if you get an RTFM from us.

But try us... we're friendly too (just not today)


CaptM
 
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CaptainMench said:
HAHAHAHA ---

Says it all:

Ovjamaica said: "Filmmaking is NOT about getting all of the technical details write. "(sic)

Other than the spelling, it should say - Filmmaking is not about doing anything on your own, it's about having others do it for you. But the spelling shows the care you take in your work.

Take the time or get off the ride.

However... done my ranting...

Make sure you are using the term 24p in the way you think you are... here on this forum that means 29.97 with a 3.2 pulldown cadence.

Don't want to be editing THAT in 23.98.

Don't be afraid to ask questions -- but if you ask things that are really stupid and you should have figured it out on your own don't be mad if you get an RTFM from us.

But try us... we're friendly too (just not today)


CaptM
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Is it 2:3:3:2 pulldown? Excellent, thanks for the tips.

Also, that quote by OVJAMAICA is meant to be spelled that way, that's part of the joke.
I'll keep doing my research, can't wait to really dive into this. Loving the tips and tricks, thanks.
 
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Oh crap...

Old men don't get jokes.

I'm an arse. HAHAH...

ugh.

So yes... 3.2 -- you CAN remove that (easy, but not apparent) by taking it into Cinema Tools and doing reverse telecine... THEN edit in 23.98.

Good luck - and thanks for the joke. I like it now.

CaptM
 
so......what is the solution for having to render everytime you change something in the footage.......

i have the same problem too
 
The solution is a question...

What are your sequence settings and what are your capture settings... both should match as best as possible.

Check your sequence and check your file... do they match?

CaptM
 
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