Someone stop the insanity!!!

This puts the Horr in Horrible. Studios just don't want to invest in new material--they're so scared to lose money and so greedy to make more, so they play it safe and produce re-makes.
 
Wasn't the original cartoon a vehicle to sell dolls and toys? Ditto for Care Bears and Strawberry Shortacke?

Do they still make Masters Of The Universe toys, or are they planning to re-launch the dolls once the film is released?
 
It doesn't really matter that the cartoon was made to sell MOTU figures. All of television was developed to move product.

If it appeals to people who watched the cartoon as kids, it could make money, because they've got lots of money now. But if it doesn't, then it'll die the wretched horrible death it deserves.

My bigger beef is with culture in general. Every aspect of it stopped innovating about 15 years ago, and has since either been stuck in neutral or it glories in the past.
 
David Jimerson said:
It doesn't really matter that the cartoon was made to sell MOTU figures. All of television was developed to move product.

If it appeals to people who watched the cartoon as kids, it could make money, because they've got lots of money now. But if it doesn't, then it'll die the wretched horrible death it deserves.

My bigger beef is with culture in general. Every aspect of it stopped innovating about 15 years ago, and has since either been stuck in neutral or it glories in the past.
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Yes, the box in the corner's sole purpose is to funnel ads into our homes. What I was talking about was a marketing thing in the 1980's that made the entire show the commerical. This was huge back then, and successful.

Since we vote with our dollars, don't we, as the movie going/consumer public, often get what we ask for, and therefore deserve?

People are always complaining that there is nothing but crap in theatres, for instance, yet they line up to pay and see junk. What other message is the studio suppsoed to get than 'keep making junk?'
 
Well, there were those who complained that all this digital technology was supposed to "democratize" filmmaking, but instead it simply filed YouTube with millions of hours of unwatchable crap.

But, that's democracy.
 
David Jimerson said:
Well, there were those who complained that all this digital technology was supposed to "democratize" filmmaking, but instead it simply filed YouTube with millions of hours of unwatchable crap.

But, that's democracy.
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But in a million bad attempts, maybe 20 are interesting. And those 20 wouldn't be possible without the Digital Revolution, don't you think?

And we are evolving. We look at the past with nostalgia, and nostalgia is a feeling many of us relate to. Transformers is a "grown up" kids movie- who would feel good while listening to "Autobots, Roll Out"? The 80'ies kids, now in their mid twenties or early thirties. Masters of the Universe is for this generation, too.

We also got the Matrix, an interesting franchise, the Lord of The Rings, 300, Harry Potter, Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, The Village, AI, etc. Etc. Every year there is something new coming in blockbuster entertainment, and also a lot of crap. That's how things are...

I would assume that this movie would work with a 300'ish look, with very stilistic backgrounds (green screened) and brutal fighting. A "Conan" vs "Army of Darkness" vs "300" kind of approach. Please no "Superman Returns" Clark Kent persona exageration (Prince Adam) for He-Man...

But I still would like to see Jolie as She-ra :)
 
DeSica said:
Since we vote with our dollars, don't we, as the movie going/consumer public, often get what we ask for, and therefore deserve?
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But who in the viewing public is even asking for this dreck to be reintroduced? I for one sure didnt ask for he-man to show up again.
I caught 15 minutes of the first one that was showing on the late late late late early movie on tv. Turned it off, it was so bad.

The next one, i cant see it being done any better, certainly cant get any worse... Ill pass

JD
 
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But in a million bad attempts, maybe 20 are interesting. And those 20 wouldn't be possible without the Digital Revolution, don't you think?
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I never would have expected any more than 20 out of a million . . . but apparently, it comes as a shock to others.
 
David Jimerson said:
I never would have expected any more than 20 out of a million . . . but apparently, it comes as a shock to others.
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Indeed... That's why real talent is so rare...Real Talent is not only raw, creative genius, but the capacity of putting that genious in something viewable. That requires very hard work. Hard WOrk without talent can give you a piece of crap, Talent without hard work, well, brings you nothing.

Youtube and the likes gave a new exciting window for new talent to come up to the table. Its a good window to show unique creative ideas. The digital revolution gave a chance for individuals to express beyond the boundaries of the broadcast/ film industry. It has pushed for them to evolve.

Nowadays, more and more quality shows come on TV. I believe the Digital Revolution has a big part in that.

I'm not a pessimist in this, David. I believe that the DIgital Revolution gave us the chance to avoid having to spend years assistant producing or directing, or running in TV Stations and Big Production houses. Nowadays, if you got the talent, have a group of passionate people, you can make something that can stand a chance in the market, and have a broad audience. (I'm not saying an internship in these places is not a good thing, far from it. But you don't have to spend years to get a chance to do something. You do not need to put up with attitudes, with social politics inside these institutions, or scratching "big guys" backs, etc. You can just learn, and if they don't give you a chance, do it yourself. You don't have to be cousin, nephew, relative of someone "inside" in order to at least have a chance. EDIT- or a billionaire..)
 
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But who in the viewing public is even asking for this dreck to be reintroduced? I for one sure didnt ask for he-man to show up again.
I caught 15 minutes of the first one that was showing on the late late late late early movie on tv. Turned it off, it was so bad.

The next one, i cant see it being done any better, certainly cant get any worse... Ill pass

JD
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I think their angle is that some of us were kids who watched the popular show back then, and bought the toys, so we may now check it out. Toss in the new generation of kids, some of whom will be taken to see it by parents, or whatever...and you have "instant audience."

Star Wars made the toy marketing angle huge in film business, and now you see many studios try and milk it.
 
I'm sure I'm gonna get blasted for this, but I for one would love to see a new MOTU movie. The first one with Lundgren was pretty horrable, but there's all sorts of possibilities these days...
 
Phew! When I saw this topic title I thought Hollywood was making a Susan Powter bio pic.

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Which, coincidentally, would be the only thing worse than another MOTU. lol :)
 
Actually, I liked the first movie with Dolph. It was campy fun and really, the Skeletor makeup was pretty close to being spot-on and freaked me out as a kid. The rest of the movie may have been less than expected for Masters of the Universe, but hey, it was a good B-movie in the end anyway.

I too wonder how people will take to a modern He-man movie. They've got to do it justice and not cut corners at all to even give it a chance. Transformers technically didn't cut corners, even though we didn't get to the good true Transformers stuff we all wanted until the end of the movie, and it still made a ton so who knows!?:undecided
 
Right on Jack. I think people forget that watching a 1987 movie in the year 2007 is different to watching it at the time of release, movies date.

Can't say i'm a fan of remakes in general though.

And yes, there is a new line of MOTU figures (if I see turtles or he-man etc at the supermarket I usually have to buy one) released about 3 years ago.
 
Yeah guess it wasn't in the budget. That's what we'll get with the new movie hopefully, we'll be in the MOTU universe.

Courteney Cox's still hot by the way casting people...
 
David Jimerson said:
It doesn't really matter that the cartoon was made to sell MOTU figures. All of television was developed to move product.

If it appeals to people who watched the cartoon as kids, it could make money, because they've got lots of money now. But if it doesn't, then it'll die the wretched horrible death it deserves.

My bigger beef is with culture in general. Every aspect of it stopped innovating about 15 years ago, and has since either been stuck in neutral or it glories in the past.
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I just made the same exact comment to a friend of mine the other day. Its like the whole world stopped being innovative and just focused on retro.

Its down to the fact that the marketing machine has become much more efficient and broad. They have so many more avenues to get at people that people, for the most part, are no longer creating things but merely being told what to accept. Fashion is the biggest example of this. The whole retro look started around the late 90s. Suddenly people were re-living past cultural styles instead of creating new ones.

That then carried over into the music industry where there are very few good bands out there today. And last, but not least, the movie industry has fallen into this funk.
 
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