High-Res Monitoring Solution: Low Cost Semi-DIY project

bwest said:
very exciting stuff
can you compare the Xenarc against lilliput for dvx also?
My adapter comes shortly and I need the best I can get.
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A good comparison for DVX, which I think has no component output, could only be done through S-Video. And I am not sure if the Lilliput has one. A comparison through composite may not be that good.
 
Yeah agreed. S-video is what I'll try. I have an S-video 4-pin to 7-pin converter so I'll check it out.

Composite wasn't too terrible in SD, I would stick with the highest quality.
 
man, I can't do this... there is no way for me to justify the purchase with the little increase in % or HD resolution display... Siniarch's is close enough to 720p which I am planning on shooting more of especially for this next 100% action short... but then the price makes it a big no-no...

man! I wanna kick something... :( I feel like ripping apart my Treo and mi girl's and a few others and jamming them into a box, duck-taping it all together and screaming at it: "parla!"
 
USLatinContent said:
man, I can't do this... there is no way for me to justify the purchase with the little increase in % or HD resolution display... Siniarch's is close enough to 720p which I am planning on shooting more of especially for this next 100% action short... but then the price makes it a big no-no...

man! I wanna kick something... :( I feel like ripping apart my Treo and mi girl's and a few others and jamming them into a box, duck-taping it all together and screaming at it: "parla!"
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Might have to reiterate this again: 720p = 1280 x 720. If you don't have both, it's not 720p.

Anthony -- Yes, the Nebtek thing will work. Little pricey though.
 
yea... I am just using it as a rough estimate anyways, I also am considering that by having a given % of the total pixels, even if they were in the same aspect ratio, you still don't really get that exact % of focusing ability due to conversion... but those just make my case stronger unfortunately...

I can't see this as a good investment unless I had a flip issue like you... now for SD it would be worth it...
 
USLatinContent said:
yea... I am just using it as a rough estimate anyways, I also am considering that by having a given % of the total pixels, even if they were in the same aspect ratio, you still don't really get that exact % of focusing ability due to conversion... but those just make my case stronger unfortunately...

I can't see this as a good investment unless I had a flip issue like you... now for SD it would be worth it...
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Yeah, just wanted to make sure you know that it wasn't close enough to 720p to make a difference. =PPP

Though, you're probably right about the investment. I need a larger monitoring solution all-around to be honest. Even if I don't have the M2 on, I'm gonna be using this monitor as much as I can instead of looking at the LCD on board.

It's worth the investment to those that need it. And I ended up spending 620 or so in the end because I will probably go for the Xenarc after it's all said n'done.
 
yea, thank's Kholi... I saw you trying to make sure before but I never addressed it and got carried away commenting about something else... thank you, twice...

Yes, for M2 people this is a bargain... it solves the problem and you get a bigger less painful to look at and higher pixel count monitor... if you can go for it Siniarch's version is a bit better yet twice the price...

for me, not a good investment... for you, the 800 x 480 is a deal and just great, a must buy... the other is a bit much but would be nice to have... yet none of these are good workflows... none... and consider the the 24" 1080p LCD... even on my box with yoke and rolling stand... not a good work flow...

this SUCKS! well it only sucks cause we know that the tech is there for small 1080p LCDs and nobody is making them... very frustrating!
 
USLatinContent said:
yea, thank's Kholi... I saw you trying to make sure before but I never addressed it and got carried away commenting about something else... thank you, twice...

Yes, for M2 people this is a bargain... it solves the problem and you get a bigger less painful to look at and higher pixel count monitor... if you can go for it Siniarch's version is a bit better yet twice the price...

for me, not a good investment... for you, the 800 x 480 is a deal and just great, a must buy... the other is a bit much but would be nice to have... yet none of these are good workflows... none... and consider the the 24" 1080p LCD... even on my box with yoke and rolling stand... not a good work flow...

this SUCKS! well it only sucks cause we know that the tech is there for small 1080p LCDs and nobody is making them... very frustrating!
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If someone knows a reason why a small 1080p LCD is wortwhile I'd like to know. After using one, even a small 720p doesn't even "seem" worth it but I haven't seen any small 720p screens of this size so I wouldn't know. It just doesn't seem like there's enough real estate or perception of the human eye at this size to make enough of a difference.

Even still, I'd love to see Siniarch's screen and the native resolution exceeding 600 at nearly the same size! That way I can see if there's a difference to my own eye worth investing in.

232 to 480 is probably going to be a more noticable difference than 480 to 720 at the same screen size. S'all speculation.

And if you don't need it... stop beating yourself up about. LoL. You did the same thing with Quad Cores.
 
I need the Quad... I need power for sure... and it is much cheaper, and a huge impact on my day to day :)

about the small pixel screens... you see it... I have to show you what 320 x 214 looks like on my 2" active display for 16:9 when I play on my Treo... it is UNREAL how much detail you see on such a minuscule screen... while projection helps by allowing for you to relax your eye, and even by allowing people with poor vision to see better... if you can see the pixel then it is useful, no matter how small it is... trust me on this one Kholi... it would be heaven on earth to be able to shoot looking at that thing... not the same as say the 24" 1080 and not like a 60ft version of the same amount of pixels.... but it would be an amazing tool which would quickly become part of the pro workflow's package...
 
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait.... something is off here

these pixels aren't smaller... I thnk it is a case of an old assumption that I've carried with me for a long time... these are not small pixels...

320 x 214 = 68,480 pixels on my Treo's 16:9 display

2,073,600 / 68,480 = 30 !!!

30 x 2 inches = 60 inch display!!! ?!?!?

I am a bit delirious since I worked aaaalll day on the computer, the only reason I am up is cause I am waiting for the .avi to render so I gan start the P2 authoring and watch it tomorrow...

so it seems this freaking screen isn't using abnormally small pixels and if anything the ones on my 24" are much smaller!!! ?

this must have been cause I saw stunned the first time I saw the Treo's screen die to contrast brightness and color count... and the pixel count too of course, but I have been telling the fish story where every block you walk you tell the story about how big it was and it keeps getting bigger and bigger... I sorry... I will research the size of the smallest pixels and run some numbers to make up for the confusion I might have caused
 
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Arright I'll trust ya. Til then, if people are buying up Marshall's that display a Max res of 800 x 600 (720x480) then it's probably good enough to focus with.

Should ask those guys. xD
 
USLatinContent said:
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait.... something is off here

these pixels aren't smaller... I thnk it is a case of an old assumption that I've carried with me for a long time... these are not small pixels...
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Boy, what are you talking about? You've totally LOST ME.
 
Kholi,


Are you alright with the power connector on the monitor?

I ask that because I have a 7" monitor I bought in B&H in 2005 and that jack sucks big deal! No plug can keep a reliable connection, and you have to fix the cable so it doesn't move.

As I have gone through an alternate path for my monitoring solution, using a Philips PET-1000, I didn't pursue my plan of changing it for a better jack. But you might consider that on your combo if you have a similar problem.
 
Kholi said:
Yeah agreed. S-video is what I'll try. I have an S-video 4-pin to 7-pin converter so I'll check it out.

Composite wasn't too terrible in SD, I would stick with the highest quality.
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Hi again kholi,
Sorry to keep interrupting you with my low res needs, but are you saying that my "rca video out" of my dvx may be good enough for the lilliput, or that the s-video is needed for best resolution?
Funny, I've never seen a difference with s-video, infact its always been bad luck for me, cause it seems less res than the rca... Strrange huh?
Anyways, could you link me with that 4pin to 7pin converter you speak of?
 
kholi, thanks for all your research. i've ordered a pair of Lilliputs, a pair of vDigis, some nice lightweight polymer li-on batteries, voltage regulators, chargers, sunshades and all the necessary wiring. even snagged a pair of those short D4 to component cables you found. the whole thing should weigh less than a pound and a half which was of primary concern to me as this needed to be a solution for a handheld rig for my DP on Heart of Now. so she thanks you too. :) when all the parts have arrived and i put it all together, i'll post some pics .
 
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