which editing software is great for music video production
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Justin Kuhn
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Final Cut Express.
Final Cut Express doesn't do 24p But any of the big boys are capable of it.
Vegas does have a lot more audio tools, though.
Vegas does have a lot more audio tools, though.
plainman007
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Theres no software which can be categorised for better music videos. Its like saying "what brush should i use to paint like picasso". But i understand your question and to honestly answer it. i would say VEGAS is a good choice. Firstly because it matches your budget (The other small and big boys are mostly on the higher cost segment). Second it has a very good array of tools for the kind of spl effects work you might want to do for video stylizing. In fact its the best and probably only NLE with compositing built in. In other words its all in your creativity. But Vegas lets you create without much trouble. Its very easy to learn. Its pc compatible and will run on any hardware config no matter how humble. The other softwares out there either will or wont. Theres no middle ground.
Glenn Thomas
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Vegas in my opinion s the best for music videos, simply because you can work to a beats and bars grid, providing you know the exact tempo of the song. No other video software I know of gives you that option. I've done a number of music videos using Vegas myself. A few examples here - http://www.myspace.com/avenemovies
Jason Wethington
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I agree Vegas is great for music videos. In fact in a recent article in one of the 'Digital Video Technique' magazines they wrote about how great Vegas is specifically for this type of work.
We cut with vegas
www.thehold.co.uk
Don't use beats/bars though, when has a song ever been consistent enough for that ...
even if it matched one bit of a song, a little pause or tempo shift and it'd be way off for the next.
www.thehold.co.uk
Don't use beats/bars though, when has a song ever been consistent enough for that ...
even if it matched one bit of a song, a little pause or tempo shift and it'd be way off for the next.
Glenn Thomas
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epicedium said:We cut with vegas
www.thehold.co.uk
Don't use beats/bars though, when has a song ever been consistent enough for that ...
Hey, great bunch of clips you have there! Love the colour correction especially. Yeah, I guess for live bands the beats/bars grid wouldn't be required. In which case I'd put a marker down for every bar
Just like to know where everything is musically. For my own music I'll sometimes record the music in Vegas, generally with a lot of live parts that I time correct to the grid. Then add and edit the video in the same project. A couple of times I've even grabbed sounds from the video tracks, edited those to the music and mixed the track again. Then you can even throw some mastering plugins on the stereo bus and use it for mastering too. Not to mention all the compositing features aswell, including being able to work in 3d space. When you think about it, it really is a very powerful program. In the audio realm I'd say it's a lot more flexible than Pro Tools even.
trezpasser
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In wich way do you tell vegas what the tempo is in the song? I can't seem to find it out. or is it just a preset, and you will have to put the song in right position and then just use the bars available?
In your Project properties, go to the Ruler tab. You can change the timeline ruler there.
Eugenia Loli-Queru
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Vegas is best for music video clips because it started out as an audio app. The company and the company culture behind Vegas (Sonic Foundry), were originally all audio guys.
And bear in mind, even the cheap version of Vegas, the VMS8-Platinum that sells for $130 supports 24p -- even if unofficially. Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum is the only NLE below $500 that will deal with 24p correctly.
And bear in mind, even the cheap version of Vegas, the VMS8-Platinum that sells for $130 supports 24p -- even if unofficially. Vegas Movie Studio 8 Platinum is the only NLE below $500 that will deal with 24p correctly.
Not sure what you mean by that. You can manually set up a 24p timeline, and if you change the ruler to Time & Frames, it will come out correctly, but it doesn't remove pulldown from 24p footage in a 60i stream (i.e., DV footage from the DVX). You can use 24p footage which already has the pulldown removed, but you're stuck in 60i otherwise.
Eugenia Loli-Queru
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Yes, I know that it doesn't remove pulldown. But it can be used with real 24p footage without a problem. The other *consumer* NLEs don't support 24p at all: either they will error out, or they will playback the clip with the wrong speed. In fact, VMS8-P is the only consumer NLE below $450 (it costs $130) that will play nice with 24p. Even Apple's $300 Final Cut Express HD will playback 24p footage with the wrong speed.
Regarding pulldown, at least for the HV20, I wrote a tutorial just like week on how to get 1080/24f and make it 24p and then load it to Vegas: http://eugenia.blogsome.com/2007/07/13/canon-hv20-24f-pulldown/
Regarding pulldown, at least for the HV20, I wrote a tutorial just like week on how to get 1080/24f and make it 24p and then load it to Vegas: http://eugenia.blogsome.com/2007/07/13/canon-hv20-24f-pulldown/
That much is probably true . . . I haven't bothered looking through very many consumer apps lately.
I just didn't want anyone thinking that all they needed for 24p, particularly with the DVX or XL2. And, I can't get it to export a 24p AVI.
HOWEVER, I never had cause to try it until just now, and it may interest some of you to know . . .
Raylight works with VMSP 8. So yes, you can edit HVX200 DVCPRO HD material with it. It doesn't perform as well as Vegas 7, but it's working.
I would still highly, highly, highly recommend the full version of Vegas, though . . .