setting up your project for film

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srproductions

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Hey Guys!

I have just started learning FCS a few months ago. I have a short coming up which I plan to edit. How should I capture/log/set up my project. I mean, should I capture each shot individually, having a bin/folder for each scene, then having each shot names ei: scene3-take6? Some1 pleases explain.
 
Sounds like a perfect time to get my DVD- I spent hours going over all those questions and more step by step. Or if you want to save some $- read the FAQ's in this forum and then maybe grab one of the Peachpit Press, Final Cut Pro books.

Noah
 
So you want us to take time out from what we are doing, and teach you how to do something that we took years to learn ourselves...and we have made tutorial DVDs explaining what to do...and you want this workflow advice for free?

Well, alrighty then. Anyone who has the deep knowhow on what to do will charge you, and it will be money WELL spent, as it will be done right. Anyone who has surface knowledge (or some deep knowlege) might give you "tips" on what to do, but not explain everything, and thus getting you into a mess.

Pay for the help up front. If not, you will VERY much be paying for it at the end. Either get Noah's DVD, or hire him or Mike Curtis of HDFORINDIES.com to consult for you on what to do.

You get what you pay for.
 
I know you don't want to spend any money, but this will be the best $33 you can spend to learn FCP: Apple Pro Training Series.

Failing that, go to the help window and call up the FCP manual. It has a large section on Log and Capture.

How you name your clips is entirely up to you and should be done in a way that has some meaning to you. If you are good with Scene 1 Take 1...go for it. Use the description box to give it a little more meaning so you can easily tell what the scene is about.
 
Just wanted to know how to capture? No...you said...QUOTE:

srproductions said:
How should I capture/log/set up my project. I mean, should I capture each shot individually, having a bin/folder for each scene, then having each shot names ei: scene3-take6? Some1 pleases explain.
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That is not a simple question of capturing, but how do you capture and organize your project...a huge thing to describe.
 
Follow the Sticky I wrote about capturing 24p in this forum. To eventually create a film output all you need to do in FCP is work at 23.98.

My reason for bringing up the disc is it can get a lot more complex than that, depending on your eventual deliverables and it might seem like you don't want to spend a few $ today, but I've spent a lot of time and client dollars fixing problems when folks go into a 24p post production with second-hand knowledge. Just trying to save you a lot of time and potential frustration and a lot more money down the road.

All of this info and workflow advice you can glean from a lot of research on the net and reading(especially this forum). I'm just saving you the time. And of course I think it's worth the $. :)

Noah
 
It totally depends upon you as an editor. I lean towards doing it in smaller pieces myself. But I'm also aware of a few guys that want materials brought in very large pieces so they can scrub faster (for a doc guy, likely doesn't apply as much to drama w/ defined scenes). In the end if you're going to do the editing then you need to decide what you'll be most comfortable using. There is no real "right" answer frankly.

cheers.
 
Your first posting was actually asking a lot more than that. So the others were basically saying that if you want a complete answer it is a lot more involved then one or two sentences (assuming you wanted all the points you raised addressed). So to that scenario the response was that to truly help yourself, in the short and long term, you should invest in some form of educatioinal material (book or DVD).

Also, with software as large and complex as an NLE, a one sentence one time answer will only ever really get you so far. Purchasing educational tools, and using those tools, can allow you to know more (never a bad thing), and potentially in the future ask more specific questions. It can often be a lot easier if you ask a detailed question, based upon specific literature. Then others can tell you if the literature is perhaps poorly worded, missing something, or whatever. At least though then you'll be coming from a starting point which is a little further along the road.

Remember that some of the contributors to this forum are very experienced and very skilled individuals that are providing a lot of free support and guidance purely because they have a passion to be active in the indie community and well to help others. They take pride in being able to provide solutions that they feel actually answer questions raised. So when making recommendations as above, they are not doing so in anger or hate, but actual honest opinion. Also, this is all just text, so often the tone of some messages can come off harsher than intended, so we all just need to cut each other some slack in that regard.

cheers.
 
srproductions said:
OK. So, why was that such a big deal? Why would I need to pay $75 for a DVD that says that?
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You don't *need* to buy anything. A lot of folks buy our training courses because they really want to see these topics carefully demonstrated by someone actually using the software step by step and explaining what everything does on screen.

Those are things impossible to communicate via text in a forum. It really comes down to what's more important- learning what you need to complete a project without trouble or saving a few bucks. I wish you the best and sorry for the misunderstanding.

Noah
 
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