Was it a dream or is RED going to bring out a 2k camera for around $5 to $7,000.00.

mcgeedigital said:
Soooooo.....editing 4k footage in FCS2 is an example of the post side "not keeping up"?

It's all theoretical. So the software supports it, but does anyone have the hardware? Is any of us going to be editing 4k on their home computer? People are still spending thousands in upgrade just to work with 1080p! If we already have the cash for it, we would take it to a post house, and do you think they use FCS2?
 
mcgeedigital said:
Soooooo.....editing 4k footage in FCS2 is an example of the post side "not keeping up"?
The big Apple/Red machine misinforming the public, yet again. I guess they call it marketing.

You can't edit Red's 4k files in FCP6. You can edit low res proxies but not the raw 4k files. The word is you might be able to in a future release. 4K finishing choices now include a Discreet Inferno or an Avid DS.

Sorry to derail the thread.
Carry on with the Red mini discussion.
 
Barry_Green said:
Well, we've gotten very amped about pre-release products before, but it seems like we're in a different time now. Before, we got all ga-ga over the DVX because it brought something unprecedented to the table -- 24P acquisition. Then we went rather nutso over the HVX because it's full-fledged DVCPRO-HD at 4:2:2. We've crossed the threshhold to "good enough for theatrical release" from many manufacturers and many products -- even a little HV20 might hold up fine on a film print! So I guess I'm saying that there's no longer a need to get all googly-eyed about unannounced (or barely-announced) products, since the existing tools are soooooooooooooooooooooo much better than they ever used to be. Standard-def DVX films have been nominated for back-to-back Oscars, there are shots from the HVX in two of the "Best Picture" nominees (including the winner!) so... I know we like talking tech, but when a product like the XDCAM EX is 8 months away, and the Red MiniCam hasn't even been given a timetable yet, I just think it's okay if we put those on a bit of a back-burner and talk about what we're doing now with what we've got now, right?

This is what I was saying with the "37k" joke. I don't know, I just can't understand why anyone, let alone indie filmmakers, would need to shoot in 4k HD. Isn't what we have now good enough? Because after we have 4k, then what's next? Someone will invent something "better" and everyone will fawn over it. I'm fine with my trusty "low res" DVX, I'd even shoot a couple of features with it before leaping to the HVX. I don't know if I'd ever want to leap to RED. Not because a 4k workflow sounds intimidating, but because it sounds ridiculous. I don't need 4k to tell the stories I want to tell. It sounds like a great camera, but it doesn't seem really practical to me, but rather a camera eqipped with a digital filmmaker's wet dream specs. Even David Lynch, after making Inland Empire, said in an interview that he was looking at HD cameras, but disliked the way the functioned, and decided to stick with MiniDV cameras.
 
Billy Pilgrim said:
Even David Lynch, after making Inland Empire, said in an interview that he was looking at HD cameras, but disliked the way the functioned, and decided to stick with MiniDV cameras.

Yep... too many buttons! :thumbsup:
 
Billy Pilgrim said:
This is what I was saying with the "37k" joke. I don't know, I just can't understand why anyone, let alone indie filmmakers, would need to shoot in 4k HD. Isn't what we have now good enough? Because after we have 4k, then what's next? Someone will invent something "better" and everyone will fawn over it. I'm fine with my trusty "low res" DVX, I'd even shoot a couple of features with it before leaping to the HVX. I don't know if I'd ever want to leap to RED. Not because a 4k workflow sounds intimidating, but because it sounds ridiculous. I don't need 4k to tell the stories I want to tell. It sounds like a great camera, but it doesn't seem really practical to me, but rather a camera eqipped with a digital filmmaker's wet dream specs. Even David Lynch, after making Inland Empire, said in an interview that he was looking at HD cameras, but disliked the way the functioned, and decided to stick with MiniDV cameras.

I don't know man. I see your point, but I'm a tech nut dude. I love the idea of newer and better.
 
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