How to create a 18 FPS TIMELINE ???

Crazy_Ideas

Crazy_Ideas

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Hi,

How can you create a 18 FPS TIMELINE in Premiere Pro 2, even when I go to "Custom" there are no options to create my own framerate for HXV clips..

I want to shoot 18 fps and edit 18 fps and watch 18 fps..

Any experience here would be appreciated..
 
I am curious as to why you would want to watch something at 18fps....

As far as I know you don't get to create custom framerates for timelines....its either 24 or 30fps...unless its pal with 25 and 50
 
I understand the sped up look you are talking about.....and by shooting at a lower fraterate, or undercraking....you would achieve that look when you placed the footage on a 24fps timeline..
 
I'm not exactly looking for the playback to be even slightly sped-up, more of the effect of just a handful of perfectly-timed missing frames, just to create the look of older footage but not the scratched, hair riddled footage, there is something that intreeges me about 18 fps, its very filmic, the HVX can shoot it perfectly.. but to edit it in a timeline, not so much... so far..
 
This is madness, largely because no one has seen properly projected 18fps since a really long time ago--at least not 35mm. DVD players either speed up or repete frames inaccurately.

But here's what you do. Shoot 18fps in 24pN, export as 23.976, then create an 18fps composition in After Effects (download the demo for 30 days if need be) and set your footage to 18fps as well. Then drop it into the composition and export in the format of your choice...

If you want to play this back on a TV or something, though, good luck.
 
Maybe you could try rendering to an HD windows media (WMV9) codec with the framerate set to 18fps. I am not positive, but I think you can do that with those codecs.

You might have to shoot and edit in a standard framerate but the end result would still be 18fps. Maybe that would not be as good of an option as straight 18fps through and through though. I am not sure about that.
 
It's very simple to get the 18fps @ 18fps look; just shoot in 720/60p mode at 18fps and edit at 18fps. It'll give you the exact look you want.

Editing at 18fps? That appears to be the problem. But making it look as if it was shot at 18fps and projected at 18fps? That's easy. Just use 720/60p, film cam mode, and set the frame rate for 18.
 
Thanks Barry,

Is there another NLE thats available that you simply could type in the timeline value and go on your merry way?

Thanks..
 
On this news release page it says "frame independance" near the top of the list and "output any framerate" lower down in the list.

http://www.newtek.com/news/releases/01-22a-07.html

I figured that the top reference may mean that you can set the framerate to whatever you want for the composition, otherwise why bother stating it twice and in two different spots if it all means "output in any frame-rate"
 
>>>>Frame-rate independence
>>>>Output any frame-rate

HOLY MOLY! WOW! It does! I am so on this NLE!!

Thanks!
 
you could also do the "posterize time" filter and enter 18fps in there .. that's probably the easiest way.. dont know how it decides which frames to keep but the effect will be there.
 
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