Children of Men

David Jimerson said:
In my experience, most people's motivations are easily understood, and any apparent contradiction is most often just on the surface.
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okay. I see where you're coming from. from my perspective -- in the sort of films i respond to -- I don't think character motivations are plainly evident expressly because their wants and desires complicate and obscure them. this is an oversimplification of what makes a complex character of course, but that's the sort of thing i saw going down in CoM.
 
David Jimerson said:
I felt that way about "Dune," but a lot of people didn't -- so yeah, different strokes.
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The horrific David Lynch version, or the horrific Sci-Fi Channel version?

Personally, I still enjoy the horrific Lynch one.
 
The Lynch version is still a lot of fun, even with its flaws (or without them, if that's one's view of it).

Especially when you watch it with some of the production's history in mind.
 
Sad Max said:
The Lynch version is still a lot of fun, even with its flaws (or without them, if that's one's view of it).

Especially when you watch it with some of the production's history in mind.
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Yeah, it's a favorite of mine. While the Sci Fi Channel version was more literally faithful to the book, the Lynch version captured the feel better.
 
I thought so, too. The look and feel of the Lynch film was marvelous; I can't see Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam or Leto Atreides any other way (although I pefer Wayne Douglas Barlowe's Steersmen, to Carlo Rambaldi's). The Sci-Fi show felt all low-end pastel-crystal new agey. And suffered just as much, for all the material crammed in, as Lynch's did for all the material omitted.
 
I did, however, like Sci Fi's adaption of "Messiah." The rest of the "Children of Dune" miniseries was drek, though.
 
I literally just saw Children of Men and liked it, except for the sudden abrupt ending with the credits music and the children laughing. Way too abrupt change of mood.
 
bballplaya283 said:
I literally just saw Children of Men and liked it, except for the sudden abrupt ending with the credits music and the children laughing. Way too abrupt change of mood.
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Agreed. never noticed it quite as much when I saw it in theaters, but when I watched it at home, the credits started rolling and it suddenly gets all upbeat and children are laughing. I was like "what the hell?". Had completely forgotten about that part and it really took me out of it (albeit it was the credits) abruptly.
 
It didn't bother me. In fact, I feel it worked very well, and that the children laughing was more hauntung than upbeat.
 
Same here...I didn't think the laughing was an element that's supposed to make you feel good about the ending. I took it to be more of a foreshadowing from OUR MODERN perspective...simply a reminder of how children are the future.

Are you guys not liking the technical abruptness of them ending...going straight to black instead of dissolving? Or you don't like how it ended without closure?
 
I did not like the technical aspect of it. Sure I appreciate the branching out and doing something new. I don't think this film was one to do it on. The ending worked well for me (story line wise). Still do not like the music of the credits. Gives no time for the viewer to reflect. Yes, it could have worked for some, but did not for me.
 
Seriously. After the first half hour, the movie is pretty much non-stop tension. I was pretty exhausted by the end.
 
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