Just to give you some perspective on "technology"

TimurCivan

TimurCivan

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This is on 35mm Film.

This is just case in point that lighting, composition, and Set design are what create the film look, not neccesarily film.

I have seen The HVX/a1/etc... produce results VERY comprably. I think we all as a community, serisouly, need to stop worry about the camera, Noise (ugh... i am sick of hearing about it), Format HDV/DV/P2... Etc.

If youre a writer/director work on writing directing. if youre a DP, work on lighting composition. i have noticed alot of indescision and bickering about cameras/35adapter/NLE, and not enough, writing assesments, set design photos, and applicable critiques.


None of us are geniuses, and i think we all need to look at our own work with a critical eye, and want to strive for better.

The most important part of a film, is the story telling. If thats your creative outlet, thats a great place to tear yourself apart. IF youre a DP, your whole style of photography could probably use a tune up.

I know im gonna start from scratch. I had a long discussion with mark harris over the last couple weeks, and we have descided we both want ot try somethign new. Him with his writing and directing, and me with my Cinematography. A fresh begining if you will.

Rant over. :)

I just want to see fresh ideas from everyone. and i thin kwe can all achieve that. :)
 
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Amen Timur! (especially to the film and noise part)

I just had my hard drive erased....

How's that for a fresh beginning!?
 
This completely mirrors my own thoughts as of late. I've been pouring through some of the old wisdom from the Directing and Cinematography sections on this site. There's not enough member attention there, but the traffic that exists is full of invaluable information.

I've also started reading McKee's book Story again. Absolutely brilliant and, I think, perhaps the most important filmmaking book out there. I've been trying to up the ante with my directing recently esspecially in terms of shot composition. I feel that my focus has really brought some terrific results. Now I'm trying to up the ante with the quality of my scripts.
 
TimurCivan said:
intentionally erased? Like sabotage?
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Like, I go to the Apple store and the guy goes, "Yeah, instead of just reinstalling your operating system I kind of erased your whole hard drive. I kinda effed it up. You need a new one."

I was gonna post a whole big thing about it, but... it doesn't really matter that much anymore.

If you look, it's like the 5 posts from today and then like 3 weeks back is my other posts, because I haven't had my computer since then.

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Like, I go to the Apple store and the guy goes, "Yeah, instead of just reinstalling your operating system I kind of erased your whole hard drive. I kinda effed it up. You need a new one."
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Yeah, some idiot at bestbuy did something similar to me last year. He had this goofy f#@%@&^ look on his face the entire time he told me about it. I had to shove my fists in my pocket, as I was tempted to slap that very look off his face.

Geek Squad my a$$.
 
This is all true. For my part, I'd appreciate it if writers would stop offering me advice on how to design shows. Next writer who comes to me with "concerns" over how a given set is laid out, will find me in his office the next day, to share my "concerns" regarding the quality and competence of his writing...

If someone screwed up a drive of mine like that, I would certainly bill him for the time required to restore the data.
 
what is the point of this thread? what is it saying about tehcnology? why did you list that link, and those pictures? Am i the only one who missed the boat here? Everything in this thread makes no sense at all.
 
What its saying is, Look at the 35mm film stills. They are lit well, and tehy just look like, DVX footage. nothign "fantastic". Technology has caught up with film to within a comprable range. Granted NONE of us, can fully utilise the added benefits of film, we just dont have the experience, to use that top 2 and the bottom 2 stops of dynamic range. But for a stright forward scene, the 35mm film looked like average, DVX/HVX footage.
 
On this board there is someone about every 12 hours looking to buy an adapter for the "film look," or asking how to get the "film look."

the point of the thread is to tell those people that they can get it by employing basic filmmaking techniques applicable to all cameras, like lighting, composition, set design, etc. and not running out to buy a new gadget.
 
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the point of the thread is to tell those people that they can get it by employing basic filmmaking techniques applicable to all cameras, like lighting, composition, set design, etc. and not running out to buy a new gadget.
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Or just being good at making films. Writing is where it all starts... if you can't write a good script you're not going to have a good film.

It's very difficult to produce good films. That's why we all work so hard to achieve it.
 
If you can't write a good script, then find someone who can. If you really find it hard to write, then don't worry about it.
 
That's true, but the phrase "creative differences" always springs to my mind whenever I'm "collaborating".
 
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