lcd monitor resolution

Not a chance. That monitor is 320x234. You want at least 640x480, and preferably 800x480.

Don't be deceived by those bogus horizontal-resolution numbers; LCD manufacturers frequently lie about the horizontal resolution by counting the red, green, and blue elements separately! So they triple the numbers. You'll see 1440x234, for example -- doesn't that sound silly? Of course it is -- nobody'd make a monitor with 1440 horizontal and 234 vertical, so once you figure out what it really is (480 x 234) it makes more sense. And then you can see clearly why that wouldn't be an appropriate monitor.

Look for 800x480 or, at worst, 640x480 if you want the minimum acceptable resolution for determining focus on a DVX.
 
Hey Barry,

I'm confused on the best way to monitor footage from a DOF adapter that's not flipped then if 1440x234 won't cut it. I would have only 5-600 on a monitoring system for my redrock m2 footage. I don't need anything big (or necessarily want it to be big) and would love to have it be on camera. 5" - 7"... somewhere in that size. Is there a certain brand or monitor you know of I should be looking at in this price range? Are there other options? Do people use standard computer LCD's ever? You'd have to have vga to composite adapter... I think I even read someone was using one of those small portable DVD players. I read a lot of people use the varizoom, but if I can't good critical focus on it, it won't. On that same token though, I don't have a grand or two to spend on a seperate monitor. Any names or links you could point me to? Thank you!
 
It's not 1440x234. That's a lie. It's 480x234. And that's useless; your on-camera LCD has twice as many pixels than that.

Any time you see a ridiculously high horizontal number in relation to the vertical, you can be assured that it's a lie. 1440x234? Lie. 960x230? Lie. Just chop that horizontal number in 1/3 to find what the truth is.

What you want is a 640x480 or better. There are lots of those out there, for $150 or so. Dennis at Cinevate talks about how he rigged up a $150 monitor with a VGA adapter and got decent resolution out of it -- not so good with color or noise, but for framing and focusing it worked fine.
 
Thanks for the reply, Barry. That's what I've been looking towards. It seems the small on camera LCD monitors are so expensive for little resolution. So, would it be smarter to get a box like this, attach it to my support rods somehow, then tether it to a standard VGA LCD and just flip the whole LCD upside down?

http://www.hdtvsupply.com/sorrcacovito.html

Wouldn't that give me much better resolution for focus and framing for less than half the price of an expensive, higher resolution on camera monitor at the expense of having it tethered to the camera? I'd like to be able to find a small on camera LCD I can flip, but looking through B and H Photo, I can only find LCD monitors with higher resolution at expensive prices... or am I just looking in the wrong spot?

Thanks!
 
How's that one working out for you? With an s-video input and a claimed 1024x768, and it being widescreen, and 12V DC input, and $158... seems like the best of all worlds...
 
So what would a regular portable TV (CRT) with an 8" screen be equivalent to in lines of LCD resolution? Seems like little portable TV's are widely available. But perhaps not enough resolution for the purposes being discussed?
 
Yea, I found the website for that Eonon LCD. JasonFox, I'd love to hear how that works out for you! Since I don't think it has a software flip, I'd be flipping the whole monitor. This may be a completely dumb question, but I don't get how people use the small articulating arms for this when most LCD's surely don't have screw mounts on the tops of their screens. Are there arms with one side a mount for your camera shoe and a gripping claw of sorts or something on the other end? Hahaha. Do I have any idea what I'm talking about here?
 
I actually pulled the metal mount off another, cheap POS LCD I had and super glued it to the one I use so I can mount it upside down. I also have one of those Varizoom articulating arms, but it's really a pain to use.

Barry - I haven't used the S-video yet as I need a female-female adapter. The cable dongle that came with the monitor has a male end coming out instead of a female. Weird.
 
JasonFox said:
I really had to dig around on eBay for a long time to find an LCD with high enough resolution. Most either don't list it or are the 480x234 variety. Finally found one that was 800x600. This one, I think: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190004541571

It claims 1024x768 in the description, but I know mine isn't that high.

Turns out that monitor is only 640x480, I believe. At least that is how the same model is listed in other locations. But I also notice it has built in FLIP IMAGE function. That's worth something!

Hunting for one that's 800x480 as per Barry Green's advice.
 
sean90291 said:
Hunting for one that's 800x480 as per Barry Green's advice.

chris f said:
any luck?

No. But I know there's gotta be one out there for a reasonable price (or will be), given that there are so many Chinese manufacturers making small, portable LCD screens.
 
i was planning to get an adapter and spend around 300 for the lcd with flip option. that is mountable to the camera... Do i need to spend a lot more??
 
For SD one of the smaller Varizoom monitors should fit your budget. For HD, yea, you need to spend way more.
 
Anyone ever tried using a ViewSonic Processor/TV Tuner with a smaller LCD monitor?

Seems like a way to get a high resolution production monitor for not too much money. The ViewSonic would allow for S-Video signal from the DVX to the monitor.

EDIT: as for VGA converters, these guys look like a good outfit. I'd love to make something like this work as a monitoring solution for my DVX+M2 setup.
 
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